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Jan Panteltje
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:11 am    Post subject: So ITV1 starts of with StarWars 2 tonight.. Reply with quote

Already recorded starwars2 from Prosieben I think it was, with German
voices... Now I see on www.itv.com that it is exactly 90 minutes.
That leaves little space for any commercials.
Curious if it was cut up, and on how the video quality will be (bandwidth).

Prosieben has no problem to make a > 2 hour movie out of 90 minutes, as they
throw in several 10 minute commercial breaks...

So if it is not cut up, but bad video quality then I can put the English audio
under the German video.....
LOL
Programmed the recording timer.


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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:38 am    Post subject: Re: So ITV1 starts of with StarWars 2 tonight.. Reply with quote

It is actually 90 minutes, from 21:00, then a 30 minute break for the news
from 22:30 to 23:00 then back to the film again until just after midnight.

bob
"Jan Panteltje" <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Already recorded starwars2 from Prosieben I think it was, with German
voices... Now I see on www.itv.com that it is exactly 90 minutes.
That leaves little space for any commercials.
Curious if it was cut up, and on how the video quality will be
(bandwidth).

Prosieben has no problem to make a > 2 hour movie out of 90 minutes, as
they
throw in several 10 minute commercial breaks...

So if it is not cut up, but bad video quality then I can put the English
audio
under the German video.....
LOL
Programmed the recording timer.


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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:44 am    Post subject: Re: So ITV1 starts of with StarWars 2 tonight.. Reply with quote

On a sunny day (Wed, 2 Nov 2005 18:38:39 -0000) it happened "bob1953"
<bob_19_53@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
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Quote:
It is actually 90 minutes, from 21:00, then a 30 minute break for the news
from 22:30 to 23:00 then back to the film again until just after midnight.
Oops! good you mention that, I wil program part2 too!

THANK YOU :-)

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: So ITV1 starts of with StarWars 2 tonight.. Reply with quote

On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 22:30:39 +0100, Kristoff Bonne
<compaqnet.be@kristoff.bonne> wrote:

Quote:
Gegroet,

Jan Panteltje schreef:
Already recorded starwars2 from Prosieben I think it was, with German
voices... Now I see on www.itv.com that it is exactly 90 minutes.
That leaves little space for any commercials.
Curious if it was cut up, and on how the video quality will be (bandwidth).
(...)


I did a scan with my sat-receiver (humax F1-5000 FTA-only) to the
ITV-channels. It found all of them, but no teletext?
Is that normal?

The ITV channels have never carried teletext on D-SAT; they have got

subtitles but not on p888 (unlike the BBC/Ch4/Ch5 who have); the
subtitles are received on my Technomate receiver.
ITV News used to have p.100 and a few others with one simple message
page as if they were thinking about providing teletext but even those
have gone now.
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Brian
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: So ITV1 starts of with StarWars 2 tonight.. Reply with quote

"Kristoff Bonne" <compaqnet.be@kristoff.bonne> wrote in message
news:43693010$0$4167$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
Quote:
Gegroet,

Jan Panteltje schreef:
Already recorded starwars2 from Prosieben I think it was, with German
voices... Now I see on www.itv.com that it is exactly 90 minutes.
That leaves little space for any commercials.
Curious if it was cut up, and on how the video quality will be
(bandwidth).
(...)


I did a scan with my sat-receiver (humax F1-5000 FTA-only) to the
ITV-channels. It found all of them, but no teletext?
Is that normal?


ITV here on the analog cable (which IIRC they take from the terrestial
PAL-transmittors in Dover, hence meredian South-East) does have teletext.

Teletext is no longer broadcast on Astra 28.2, except for a limited Ceefax

service on the BBC. It has been replaced by another form of digital text
information service that can only be accessed by a Sky Digibox.

Interesting that you get ITV on cable. Here in Wallonie, the only UK
channels we get are BBC 1 & 2.

Brian
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Kristoff Bonne
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: So ITV1 starts of with StarWars 2 tonight.. Reply with quote

Gegroet,

Jan Panteltje schreef:
Quote:
Already recorded starwars2 from Prosieben I think it was, with German
voices... Now I see on www.itv.com that it is exactly 90 minutes.
That leaves little space for any commercials.
Curious if it was cut up, and on how the video quality will be (bandwidth).
(...)



I did a scan with my sat-receiver (humax F1-5000 FTA-only) to the
ITV-channels. It found all of them, but no teletext?
Is that normal?


ITV here on the analog cable (which IIRC they take from the terrestial
PAL-transmittors in Dover, hence meredian South-East) does have teletext.



Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.
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HJK
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: So ITV1 starts of with StarWars 2 tonight.. Reply with quote

"Jan Panteltje" <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> skrev i melding
news:436903ef@news.usenetzone.com...
Quote:
Already recorded starwars2 from Prosieben I think it was, with German
voices... Now I see on www.itv.com that it is exactly 90 minutes.
That leaves little space for any commercials.
Curious if it was cut up, and on how the video quality will be
(bandwidth).

The bandwitdh and quality is quite poor. ITV does not transmitt in SDTV but
uses 75% of normal SDTV resolution.
Videobitrate is normally around 2-3Mbit/s.
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: So ITV1 starts of with StarWars 2 tonight.. Reply with quote

As a footnote, on sky two now (20:00) is Star Wars - Feel the force. a back
stage documentary, hosted by C3PO.

bob
"Jan Panteltje" <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On a sunny day (Wed, 2 Nov 2005 18:38:39 -0000) it happened "bob1953"
bob_19_53@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
436907b0$0$63055$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>:

It is actually 90 minutes, from 21:00, then a 30 minute break for the news
from 22:30 to 23:00 then back to the film again until just after midnight.
Oops! good you mention that, I wil program part2 too!
THANK YOU :-)

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: So ITV1 starts of with StarWars 2 tonight.. Reply with quote

Brian wrote:

Quote:
Teletext is no longer broadcast on Astra 28.2, except for a limited Ceefax
service on the BBC.

My ar*e.

Eurosport, Euronews, CNN and CNBC have full analogue text services and
some Sky channels also carry analogue text.

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Kristoff Bonne
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: So ITV1 starts of with StarWars 2 tonight.. Reply with quote

Gegroet,

(And also thanks to Charles for his reply)


Brian schreef:
Quote:
ITV here on the analog cable (which IIRC they take from the terrestial
PAL-transmittors in Dover, hence meredian South-East) does have teletext.

Teletext is no longer broadcast on Astra 28.2, except for a limited Ceefax
service on the BBC. It has been replaced by another form of digital text
information service that can only be accessed by a Sky Digibox.

Well, I do have a limited EPG (the current show and the next one). I
should check if I get a subtitle-track. (subtitles do seam to work OK on
some channels).


Quote:
Interesting that you get ITV on cable. Here in Wallonie, the only UK
channels we get are BBC 1 & 2.
Another advantage of living on the coast. :-)


We even used to have Channel 4 for a couple of years but they replaced
it for one of these music-channels. :-(

It would be nice to have Channel 4 again but as they are not on astra 2D
(they do have a transponder on 2D but that's not enough to suit all of
their channels), I will not hold my breath.


Quote:
Brian
Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: So ITV1 starts of with StarWars 2 tonight.. Reply with quote

"Jomtien" <jomtien@the.beach> wrote in message
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Quote:
Brian wrote:

Teletext is no longer broadcast on Astra 28.2, except for a limited Ceefax
service on the BBC.

My ar*e. = You are mistaken. Politeness costs nothing.

Eurosport, Euronews, CNN and CNBC have full analogue text services and
some Sky channels also carry analogue text.

My apologies. I hadn't realised teletext was still present on those

channels.

Brian
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MJ Ray
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Teletext, was: So ITV1 starts of with StarWars 2 tonight.. Reply with quote

"Brian" <freelance102@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
My apologies. I hadn't realised teletext was still present on those
channels.

Never mind the apology. Please check your facts. A quick glance on
lyngsat or kingofsat shows teletext stream IDs on 28e.

Some of them are quite useful (including some of the football pages on
Sky News) but many of them aren't worth much: BBC's Astra Ceefax is a
poor shadow of the celebrated 30-year-old service and especially
shameful when you realise BBC World at 13e and 1w has Ceefax news
pages. BBCi serves a different audience: put Ceefax back on Astra!

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Jomtien
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: So ITV1 starts of with StarWars 2 tonight.. Reply with quote

Brian wrote:

Quote:
My ar*e. = You are mistaken. Politeness costs nothing.

I can assure you that there is nothing impolite about my ar*e.

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Ian Hoare
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Teletext, was: So ITV1 starts of with StarWars 2 tonight Reply with quote

Salut/Hi MJ Ray,

le/on 03 Nov 2005 20:13:48 GMT, tu disais/you said:-

Quote:
"Brian" <freelance102@hotmail.com> wrote:
My apologies. I hadn't realised teletext was still present on those
channels.

Never mind the apology. Please check your facts. A quick glance on
lyngsat or kingofsat shows teletext stream IDs on 28e.

A pretty graceless response to an apology. What does minimal politeness cost
you?

If you treated people face to face as you do here, you'd go around with a
permanent and well deserved bloody nose.

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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Teletext, was: So ITV1 starts of with StarWars 2 tonight Reply with quote

On a sunny day (Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:06:35 +0100) it happened Ian Hoare
<ianhoare@angelfire.com> wrote in
<365nm1dtg5fesloapinn0sas238qutlpej@4ax.com>:

Quote:
Salut/Hi MJ Ray,

le/on 03 Nov 2005 20:13:48 GMT, tu disais/you said:-

"Brian" <freelance102@hotmail.com> wrote:
My apologies. I hadn't realised teletext was still present on those
channels.

Never mind the apology. Please check your facts. A quick glance on
lyngsat or kingofsat shows teletext stream IDs on 28e.

A pretty graceless response to an apology. What does minimal politeness cost
you?

If you treated people face to face as you do here, you'd go around with a
permanent and well deserved bloody nose.

And on top of that the presence of teletext PIDs means NOTHING.
The teletext pids can be, and indeed are, on for example ITV2, totally
empty:
setting PIDS for program number 10070 (0x2756):
video_pid=2314 (0x90a)
found 2 audio channels, pid: 2315 (0x90b) 2363 (0x93b)
selected_audio_pid=2315 (0x90b) language=eng
no ac3 pid found
teletext_pid=2317 (0x90d)
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