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Steve
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
Stop the MPAA and RIAA |
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(EFF)---On November 3, the heads of the MPAA and RIAA presented to a
House Subcommittee their plans for the future of digital technology.
For HDTV, the MPAA demands that every receiver must obey the broadcast
flag. For new radio technologies, you'll be restricted to recording
shows for a minimum of 30 minutes and a maximum of 50 hours. All
analog-to-digital video conversions will be forced to obey a concealed
copy restriction mark.
If any one of these provisions pass, it would be a disaster. There
will be no room for open-source software. All these devices must be
welded shut to prevent alteration by their owners. There will be no
room for innovation without the say-so of Hollywood. And there will be
no fair-use copying without breaking the law.
Let Congress know how preposterous the MPAA and RIAA proposals are,
and warn them that your technological future depends on their
willingness to stand up for your rights.
More information:
http://tinyurl.com/amem5
Full URL:
https://secure.eff.org/site/Advocacy?JServSessionIdr001=8jstkolhd1.app2a&cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=181
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
Re: Stop the MPAA and RIAA |
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The solution is simple: don't buy HDTV sets or digital radios. Don't
buy any of the new stuff. If people don't buy it, what are they gonna
do?
Me, I'm gonna load up on TV/VCR combos and code-free DVD players and
regular TV sets. I have enough unseen tapes and DVDs to last me the
rest of my life, even if I retired tomorrow. I don't watch any new TV
shows anyway. If there's a new movie I want to see I'll go see it in a
theater, provided it's not digital projection (which I hate). And when
all movies are digitally projected, I won't go to any of them. I won't
be missing anything. I haven't seen a good new movie on the big screen
since...probably KILL BILL VOL. 1.
Just remember, folks, human beings are analog creatures, not digital.
We're chemical, not electronic. That's why we react so strongly to
actual film projection. Because the images are created chemically, not
digitally or electronically. Hold a strip of film in your hand and hold
it up to the light. How does that affect you? Try the same thing with a
strip of videotape. See what I mean? |
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Shawn Hirn
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
Re: Stop the MPAA and RIAA |
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In article <1131483895.584448.295820@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | leo86@my-deja.com wrote:
The solution is simple: don't buy HDTV sets or digital radios. Don't
buy any of the new stuff. If people don't buy it, what are they gonna
do?
If people wouldn't have been ripping off the music industry for the
last 5-10 years, they wouldn't have taken these draconian measures.
The chickens are coming home to roost on all of those pirates.
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Nonsense. The record industry has made money hand over fist from the
public. There are plenty of ways to legally get music for free or
through avenues that the RIAA does not support, but the RIAA would have
us pay each and every time we listen to any song. The RIAA also does
nothing to help talented artists who are not hot and sexy like Britney
Spears. |
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Shawn Hirn
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
Re: Stop the MPAA and RIAA |
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In article <h1i1n1lhbgc1kggg7sa3ph2kdm13dsfs6k@4ax.com>,
Steve <nmvc@kytr.inv> wrote:
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Let Congress know how preposterous the MPAA and RIAA proposals are,
and warn them that your technological future depends on their
willingness to stand up for your rights.
More information:
http://tinyurl.com/amem5
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This kind of corporate-centric behavior will continue as long as we, the
American people, stand by and allow our government to be ran by the
corporate and religious zealots.
As for this issue, the RIAA and MPAA still haven't come to grips with a
basic fact of life. That which can be seen and/or heard can be recorded.
There isn't a technology in the world that can prevent someone from
getting around any copy protection technology the RIAA and MPAA get
behind.
What's more important is for the American people to show more concern
for how the government sells out our financial interests, rather than
our entertainment needs. |
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Guest
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
Re: Stop the MPAA and RIAA |
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| Quote: | If people wouldn't have been ripping off the music industry for the
last 5-10 years, they wouldn't have taken these draconian measures.
The chickens are coming home to roost on all of those pirates.
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Untrue. And FUD.
Congress already turned down a review of the Broadcast Flag initiative
and passed the buck to the FCC. The FCC caved to the MPAA (of course).
The Broadcast Flag initiative was then overturn in a DC Circuit Court.
The MPAA doesn't care what our courts say and are now piggybacking it
on the Analog Hole bill in hopes that it will pass along with it. The
MPAA knows that any court will not let these measures through, but
corporate backed Congress might. It is doubtful Congress will pass it.
This is typical of big business stifling innovation. What they fail to
see is any Linux hacker with a decent set of tools and some hardware
programming experience can break whatever half-assed technology they
come up with to keep people from using the technology they purchased
(for whatever reason, good or bad).
http://www.eff.org |
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Guest
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
Re: Stop the MPAA and RIAA |
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| Quote: | If people wouldn't have been ripping off the music industry for the
last 5-10 years, they wouldn't have taken these draconian measures.
The chickens are coming home to roost on all of those pirates.
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Untrue. And FUD.
Congress already turned down a review of the Broadcast Flag initiative
and passed the buck to the FCC. The FCC caved to the MPAA (of course).
The Broadcast Flag initiative was then overturn in a DC Circuit Court.
The MPAA doesn't care what our courts say and are now piggybacking it
on the Analog Hole bill in hopes that it will pass along with it. The
MPAA knows that any court will not let these measures through, but
corporate backed Congress might. It is doubtful Congress will pass it.
This is typical of big business stifling innovation. What they fail to
see is any Linux hacker with a decent set of tools and some hardware
programming experience can break whatever half-assed technology they
come up with.
http://www.eff.org |
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Larry Bud
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
Re: Stop the MPAA and RIAA |
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leo86@my-deja.com wrote:
| Quote: | The solution is simple: don't buy HDTV sets or digital radios. Don't
buy any of the new stuff. If people don't buy it, what are they gonna
do?
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If people wouldn't have been ripping off the music industry for the
last 5-10 years, they wouldn't have taken these draconian measures.
The chickens are coming home to roost on all of those pirates. |
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Larry Bud
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
Re: Stop the MPAA and RIAA |
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| Quote: | There isn't a technology in the world that can prevent someone from
getting around any copy protection technology the RIAA and MPAA get
behind.
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Pirates have been working long and hard trying to crack the most recent
DirecTV card to no avail. It IS possible. |
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Steve
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
Re: Stop the MPAA and RIAA |
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"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | The solution is simple: don't buy HDTV sets or digital radios. Don't
buy any of the new stuff. If people don't buy it, what are they gonna
do?
If people wouldn't have been ripping off the music industry for the
last 5-10 years, they wouldn't have taken these draconian measures.
The chickens are coming home to roost on all of those pirates.
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Ahhh, another Larry Bud posting obviously meant for
misc.screw.consumers
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Larry Bud
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
Re: Stop the MPAA and RIAA |
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Shawn Hirn wrote:
| Quote: | In article <1131483895.584448.295820@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
leo86@my-deja.com wrote:
The solution is simple: don't buy HDTV sets or digital radios. Don't
buy any of the new stuff. If people don't buy it, what are they gonna
do?
If people wouldn't have been ripping off the music industry for the
last 5-10 years, they wouldn't have taken these draconian measures.
The chickens are coming home to roost on all of those pirates.
Nonsense. The record industry has made money hand over fist from the
public.
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So what? That doesn't give anyone the right to rip them off.
| Quote: | There are plenty of ways to legally get music for free or
through avenues that the RIAA does not support, but the RIAA would have
us pay each and every time we listen to any song. The RIAA also does
nothing to help talented artists who are not hot and sexy like Britney
Spears.
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You're more than free to start your own recording industry, sign
talent, and give away the music all you want. We'll see how long you
last and how many great artists you get. |
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Jeff Rife
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:57 am Post subject:
Re: Stop the MPAA and RIAA |
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Larry Bud (larrybud2002@yahoo.com) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:
| Quote: | There isn't a technology in the world that can prevent someone from
getting around any copy protection technology the RIAA and MPAA get
behind.
Pirates have been working long and hard trying to crack the most recent
DirecTV card to no avail.
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If the DirecTV authorization system was a "copy protection technology"
then you'd have something to support your argument, but it isn't, so you
don't.
As the OP said, anything that a human can hear or see can be recorded,
and no copy protection can stop this.
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Gordon Burditt
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:27 am Post subject:
Re: Stop the MPAA and RIAA |
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| Quote: | This kind of corporate-centric behavior will continue as long as we, the
American people, stand by and allow our government to be ran by the
corporate and religious zealots.
As for this issue, the RIAA and MPAA still haven't come to grips with a
basic fact of life. That which can be seen and/or heard can be recorded.
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This is what they are going to work on several steps later: mandatory
DRM in the bionic eyes and ears you're going to have to have installed
at your expense. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED.
| Quote: | There isn't a technology in the world that can prevent someone from
getting around any copy protection technology the RIAA and MPAA get
behind.
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Yes, there is. Basically, it's called "death", and the military
forces of the world have much experience at causing it.
Gordon L. Burditt |
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David Johnston
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:08 am Post subject:
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 21:44:36 -0800, "John Doe II"
<firsTraveler@centurytel.net> wrote:
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"Steve" <nmvc@kytr.inv> wrote in message
news:fdi2n1d01ncqtutj7ts4pq4cbljaksqi3r@4ax.com...
"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
The solution is simple: don't buy HDTV sets or digital radios. Don't
buy any of the new stuff. If people don't buy it, what are they gonna
do?
Be screwing themselves out of a much much better picture? Yep.
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<shrug> The picture I've got is just fine. |
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The Real Bev
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:08 am Post subject:
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John Doe II wrote:
| Quote: | "Steve" <nmvc@kytr.inv> wrote:
"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
The solution is simple: don't buy HDTV sets or digital radios. Don't
buy any of the new stuff. If people don't buy it, what are they gonna
do?
Be screwing themselves out of a much much better picture? Yep.
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Crap is still crap no matter how high the resolution.
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Cheers,
Bev
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No lawyering. Prosecutors will be violated. |
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John Doe II
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:08 am Post subject:
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"Steve" <nmvc@kytr.inv> wrote in message
news:fdi2n1d01ncqtutj7ts4pq4cbljaksqi3r@4ax.com...
| Quote: | "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
The solution is simple: don't buy HDTV sets or digital radios. Don't
buy any of the new stuff. If people don't buy it, what are they gonna
do?
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Be screwing themselves out of a much much better picture? Yep. |
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