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Victor
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
newbie cable splitting question |
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Hi all,
my neighbour (friend) has a dish on the roof picking up hotbird.
Can I cut the coaxial cable running down to his flat and put some gadget
between that will split the cable and give me access to same dish?
Or do I have to mess with the lnb or something else?
Thanks |
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Irma Troll
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
Re: newbie cable splitting question |
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Victor wrote:
| Quote: | Hi all,
my neighbour (friend) has a dish on the roof picking up hotbird.
Can I cut the coaxial cable running down to his flat and put some gadget
between that will split the cable and give me access to same dish?
Or do I have to mess with the lnb or something else?
Thanks
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Best bet, by a long way, is to get a multi-feed lnb (you can snag a 4
way one off Ebay for under 15 quid). Then it's just a case of replacing
the old lnb and running a new cable to your box.
Irma |
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Charles Ellson
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
Re: newbie cable splitting question |
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:43:51 -0000, "Victor" <viktor@ukf.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi all,
my neighbour (friend) has a dish on the roof picking up hotbird.
Can I cut the coaxial cable running down to his flat and put some gadget
between that will split the cable and give me access to same dish?
Or do I have to mess with the lnb or something else?
You need an LNB with two independent outlets to run two receivers off |
one dish, BUT-
It is less safe to do this with separate premises due to
1) the increased danger associated with equipment which could be
connected to different phases of the electricity supply and
2) the opportunity for mains contacts in one of the premises to make
their way through the system to the (usually) unearthed cases of other
DigiBoxes.
Appropriate earthing will minimise such hazards but in the absence of
the kind of monitoring of the installation that would occur with e.g.
a professionally maintained distribution network in a block of flats
you cannot be sure of a fault in one flat not livening up the
installation in the other.
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Colin
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
Re: newbie cable splitting question |
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"JF" <jf@NOSPAMmarage.demon.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
news:xjWzpOA+mhcDFwCm@marage.demon.co.uk...
| Quote: | In message <dkt2u8$7i61@eui1nw.euskaltel.es>, Colin <colinc@euskalnet.net
writes
"Charles Ellson" <charles@ellson.demon.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:43:51 -0000, "Victor" <viktor@ukf.net> wrote:
Can I cut the coaxial cable running down to his flat and put some gadget
between that will split the cable and give me access to same dish?
You need an LNB with two independent outlets to run two receivers off
one dish, BUT-
That is what I did recently, and it works fine, but a friend of mine wants
only a splitter device because he really does not want to have to clamber
over his roof. I told him the twin lnb is the answer, but he is adamant.
Is
such a splitter available?
You'll have a lot of fun changing each others programmes.
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Sorry for this layman-type question, but do you mean a cable splitter will
only enable the same channel to be viewed on both digiboxes? So, a twin LNB
is the only answer? |
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Colin
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
Re: newbie cable splitting question |
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"Charles Ellson" <charles@ellson.demon.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
news:h6c2n1tq9h2752ahqnjgoppd4d9472l0o3@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:43:51 -0000, "Victor" <viktor@ukf.net> wrote:
Can I cut the coaxial cable running down to his flat and put some gadget
between that will split the cable and give me access to same dish?
You need an LNB with two independent outlets to run two receivers off
one dish, BUT-
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That is what I did recently, and it works fine, but a friend of mine wants
only a splitter device because he really does not want to have to clamber
over his roof. I told him the twin lnb is the answer, but he is adamant. Is
such a splitter available?
Thanks,
Colin Cope. |
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JF
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
Re: newbie cable splitting question |
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In message <dkt2u8$7i61@eui1nw.euskaltel.es>, Colin
<colinc@euskalnet.net> writes
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"Charles Ellson" <charles@ellson.demon.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
news:h6c2n1tq9h2752ahqnjgoppd4d9472l0o3@4ax.com...
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:43:51 -0000, "Victor" <viktor@ukf.net> wrote:
Can I cut the coaxial cable running down to his flat and put some gadget
between that will split the cable and give me access to same dish?
You need an LNB with two independent outlets to run two receivers off
one dish, BUT-
That is what I did recently, and it works fine, but a friend of mine wants
only a splitter device because he really does not want to have to clamber
over his roof. I told him the twin lnb is the answer, but he is adamant. Is
such a splitter available?
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You'll have a lot of fun changing each others programmes. |
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Mark Trudgill
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:53 pm Post subject:
Re: newbie cable splitting question |
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The message <dkt8hi$3cn1@eui1nw.euskaltel.es>
from "Colin" <colinc@euskalnet.net> contains these words:
| Quote: | "JF" <jf@NOSPAMmarage.demon.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
news:xjWzpOA+mhcDFwCm@marage.demon.co.uk...
In message <dkt2u8$7i61@eui1nw.euskaltel.es>, Colin
colinc@euskalnet.net
writes
"Charles Ellson" <charles@ellson.demon.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
news:h6c2n1tq9h2752ahqnjgoppd4d9472l0o3@4ax.com...
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:43:51 -0000, "Victor" <viktor@ukf.net> wrote:
Can I cut the coaxial cable running down to his flat and put some gadget
between that will split the cable and give me access to same dish?
You need an LNB with two independent outlets to run two receivers off
one dish, BUT-
That is what I did recently, and it works fine, but a friend of mine wants
only a splitter device because he really does not want to have to clamber
over his roof. I told him the twin lnb is the answer, but he is adamant.
Is
such a splitter available?
You'll have a lot of fun changing each others programmes.
Sorry for this layman-type question, but do you mean a cable splitter will
only enable the same channel to be viewed on both digiboxes? So, a twin LNB
is the only answer?
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In a nutshell, a splitter is not going to work, because if you're both
watching different channels on a different polarity of your LNB.
It just wont work, you need the twin LNB as said before. |
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Irma Troll
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:28 pm Post subject:
Re: newbie cable splitting question |
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Colin wrote:
| Quote: | "JF" <jf@NOSPAMmarage.demon.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
news:xjWzpOA+mhcDFwCm@marage.demon.co.uk...
In message <dkt2u8$7i61@eui1nw.euskaltel.es>, Colin <colinc@euskalnet.net
writes
"Charles Ellson" <charles@ellson.demon.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
news:h6c2n1tq9h2752ahqnjgoppd4d9472l0o3@4ax.com...
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:43:51 -0000, "Victor" <viktor@ukf.net> wrote:
Can I cut the coaxial cable running down to his flat and put some gadget
between that will split the cable and give me access to same dish?
You need an LNB with two independent outlets to run two receivers off
one dish, BUT-
That is what I did recently, and it works fine, but a friend of mine wants
only a splitter device because he really does not want to have to clamber
over his roof. I told him the twin lnb is the answer, but he is adamant.
Is
such a splitter available?
You'll have a lot of fun changing each others programmes.
Sorry for this layman-type question, but do you mean a cable splitter will
only enable the same channel to be viewed on both digiboxes? So, a twin LNB
is the only answer?
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The twin (or 4) lnb is the easiest option. Get a ladder and clamber onto
the roof yourself - remember to take a screw driver up with you and one
end of the coax with an F connector on it!
Irma |
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Colin
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:47 pm Post subject:
Re: newbie cable splitting question |
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"Irma Troll" <troll@troll.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:43723169_2@x-privat.org...
| Quote: | Colin wrote:
"JF" <jf@NOSPAMmarage.demon.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
news:xjWzpOA+mhcDFwCm@marage.demon.co.uk...
In message <dkt2u8$7i61@eui1nw.euskaltel.es>, Colin
colinc@euskalnet.net> writes
"Charles Ellson" <charles@ellson.demon.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
news:h6c2n1tq9h2752ahqnjgoppd4d9472l0o3@4ax.com...
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:43:51 -0000, "Victor" <viktor@ukf.net> wrote:
Can I cut the coaxial cable running down to his flat and put some
gadget
between that will split the cable and give me access to same dish?
You need an LNB with two independent outlets to run two receivers off
one dish, BUT-
That is what I did recently, and it works fine, but a friend of mine
wants
only a splitter device because he really does not want to have to
clamber
over his roof. I told him the twin lnb is the answer, but he is
adamant. Is
such a splitter available?
You'll have a lot of fun changing each others programmes.
Sorry for this layman-type question, but do you mean a cable splitter
will only enable the same channel to be viewed on both digiboxes? So, a
twin LNB is the only answer?
The twin (or 4) lnb is the easiest option. Get a ladder and clamber onto
the roof yourself - remember to take a screw driver up with you and one
end of the coax with an F connector on it!
Irma
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Ok, will do. Thanks for the advice.
Colin. |
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Charles Ellson
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:16 am Post subject:
Re: newbie cable splitting question |
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On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:36:40 +0100, "Colin" <colinc@euskalnet.net>
wrote:
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"JF" <jf@NOSPAMmarage.demon.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
news:xjWzpOA+mhcDFwCm@marage.demon.co.uk...
In message <dkt2u8$7i61@eui1nw.euskaltel.es>, Colin <colinc@euskalnet.net
writes
"Charles Ellson" <charles@ellson.demon.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
news:h6c2n1tq9h2752ahqnjgoppd4d9472l0o3@4ax.com...
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:43:51 -0000, "Victor" <viktor@ukf.net> wrote:
Can I cut the coaxial cable running down to his flat and put some gadget
between that will split the cable and give me access to same dish?
You need an LNB with two independent outlets to run two receivers off
one dish, BUT-
That is what I did recently, and it works fine, but a friend of mine wants
only a splitter device because he really does not want to have to clamber
over his roof. I told him the twin lnb is the answer, but he is adamant.
Is
such a splitter available?
You'll have a lot of fun changing each others programmes.
Sorry for this layman-type question, but do you mean a cable splitter will
only enable the same channel to be viewed on both digiboxes? So, a twin LNB
is the only answer?
Correct. If you use a splitter the LNB will react to the 22kHz control |
signal used for band switching (but not usually the 14v/18v switching)
whichever route it comes in by.
Using a splitter would be the equivalent of feeding two televisions
with one VCR controlled by two remote controls.
Taking into account your friend's apparent preference for doing it on
the cheap, I would return to my previous comments WRT the electrical
safety considerations which need to be taken into account; i.e. if he
does anything (or a fault occurs) in his house/flat which puts 240v
out towards the dish via the cable braid it will (except in the case
of some older models) make the case of your DigiBox live in the
absence of special earthing arrangements.
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| Charles Ellson: charles@e11son.demon.co.uk | | \\ // |
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Colin
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:08 am Post subject:
Re: newbie cable splitting question |
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| Quote: | Sorry for this layman-type question, but do you mean a cable splitter will
only enable the same channel to be viewed on both digiboxes? So, a twin
LNB
is the only answer?
Correct. If you use a splitter the LNB will react to the 22kHz control
signal used for band switching (but not usually the 14v/18v switching)
whichever route it comes in by.
Using a splitter would be the equivalent of feeding two televisions
with one VCR controlled by two remote controls.
Taking into account your friend's apparent preference for doing it on
the cheap, I would return to my previous comments WRT the electrical
safety considerations which need to be taken into account; i.e. if he
does anything (or a fault occurs) in his house/flat which puts 240v
out towards the dish via the cable braid it will (except in the case
of some older models) make the case of your DigiBox live in the
absence of special earthing arrangements.
--
_______
+---------------------------------------------------+ |\\ //|
| Charles Ellson: charles@e11son.demon.co.uk | | \\ // |
+---------------------------------------------------+ | > < |
| // \\ |
Alba gu brath |//___\\|
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Thanks to everyone for the advice. Without that technical explanation, my
friend's smattering of knowledge would have led to him continuing to insist
it is possilbe to split the signal. The reason I didn't think it was
possible was that satellite systems dealers, or the one whose web site I
checked at least, don't seem to sell the type of splitter he would need. The
safety of his children being paramount, he'll listen when I insist he
installs a twin LNB. They're not that expensive after all - the Televes one
I've just fitted was only 40 euros.
Thanks again,
Colin. |
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Irma Troll
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:17 pm Post subject:
Re: newbie cable splitting question |
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Colin wrote:
| Quote: | Sorry for this layman-type question, but do you mean a cable splitter will
only enable the same channel to be viewed on both digiboxes? So, a twin
LNB
is the only answer?
Correct. If you use a splitter the LNB will react to the 22kHz control
signal used for band switching (but not usually the 14v/18v switching)
whichever route it comes in by.
Using a splitter would be the equivalent of feeding two televisions
with one VCR controlled by two remote controls.
Taking into account your friend's apparent preference for doing it on
the cheap, I would return to my previous comments WRT the electrical
safety considerations which need to be taken into account; i.e. if he
does anything (or a fault occurs) in his house/flat which puts 240v
out towards the dish via the cable braid it will (except in the case
of some older models) make the case of your DigiBox live in the
absence of special earthing arrangements.
--
_______
+---------------------------------------------------+ |\\ //|
| Charles Ellson: charles@e11son.demon.co.uk | | \\ // |
+---------------------------------------------------+ | > < |
| // \\ |
Alba gu brath |//___\\|
Thanks to everyone for the advice. Without that technical explanation, my
friend's smattering of knowledge would have led to him continuing to insist
it is possilbe to split the signal. The reason I didn't think it was
possible was that satellite systems dealers, or the one whose web site I
checked at least, don't seem to sell the type of splitter he would need. The
safety of his children being paramount, he'll listen when I insist he
installs a twin LNB. They're not that expensive after all - the Televes one
I've just fitted was only 40 euros.
Thanks again,
Colin.
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You can pick up a four-way lnb on Ebay for 15 quid or less.
Irma |
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Colin
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:48 pm Post subject:
Re: newbie cable splitting question |
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| Quote: | ... installs a twin LNB. They're not that expensive after all - the
Televes one I've just fitted was only 40 euros.
Thanks again,
Colin.
You can pick up a four-way lnb on Ebay for 15 quid or less.
Irma
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So they are, but would a non-Televes lnb fit a Televes dish? I was worried
that a different lnb wouldn't fit, so for my system I opted for a Televes
lnb, which was also quicker than waiting for it to arrive from the UK. If
any lnb can be mounted onto any dish then when my friend inevitably asks me
to go up on his roof I will get one from ebay for him.
Cheers,
Colin. |
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Irma Troll
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
Re: newbie cable splitting question |
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Colin wrote:
| Quote: | ... installs a twin LNB. They're not that expensive after all - the
Televes one I've just fitted was only 40 euros.
Thanks again,
Colin.
You can pick up a four-way lnb on Ebay for 15 quid or less.
Irma
So they are, but would a non-Televes lnb fit a Televes dish? I was worried
that a different lnb wouldn't fit, so for my system I opted for a Televes
lnb, which was also quicker than waiting for it to arrive from the UK. If
any lnb can be mounted onto any dish then when my friend inevitably asks me
to go up on his roof I will get one from ebay for him.
Cheers,
Colin.
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Most are the same size these days so I'd be 99% certain of compatibility.
Irma |
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Colin
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
Re: newbie cable splitting question |
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Thanks again,
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Colin.
You can pick up a four-way lnb on Ebay for 15 quid or less.
Irma
So they are, but would a non-Televes lnb fit a Televes dish? I was
worried that a different lnb wouldn't fit, so for my system I opted for a
Televes lnb, which was also quicker than waiting for it to arrive from
the UK. If any lnb can be mounted onto any dish then when my friend
inevitably asks me to go up on his roof I will get one from ebay for him.
Cheers,
Colin.
Most are the same size these days so I'd be 99% certain of compatibility.
Irma
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Ebay it is then. Cheers.
Colin. |
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