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Bill Hayles
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Will an UK Freeview box work in Spain? Reply with quote

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:55:37 +0100, Jim Watt <jimwatt@aol.no_way>
wrote:


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I saw a poster for TDT at a Spanish shop, but they did not have
any product on the shelves to look at.

I have two boxes - one is my old Quiero box (remember them?) and the
other is a Grundig box I mail-ordered from Redcoon about a year ago.

Most ordinary Electrodomesticos seem to have a single model for
sale, but Carrefour, MediaMarkt and El Corte Ingles have a
selection.

I'm fortunate in living just a few kilometres from one of the few
specialists in Spain (STS of Moraira).

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I can see four MUX's on my spectrum analyser here, but only
one resolves into anything useful on the freeview box.

It's being rolled out on a transmitter by transmitter basis. This
morning, tests started from MUX4 on my local transmitter.
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BTW has the move of ITV1 + 2 to a V transponder helped your
reception of A2D ?

Not really. ITV2 has always been vertical, and the ITV1
polarisation has depended on which region you "lived" in. I "live"
in Scotland, which has always been vertical (10906V).

However, the moving of ITV1 London (963) to vertical has helped
owners of Sky Plus in the wrong region, as they can now record from
that - you can't record from "other channels" which is where we set
up the ITV regions on 10906V if 103 was wrong.

BTW. I'm told that in the Balearics it's the other way round and
that the horizontals are stronger than the verticals - BBC2 all
night, but not ITV 2,3,4.

Bill Hayles
groups@billnot.com
http://www.digiboxes.org
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tony sayer
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Will an UK Freeview box work in Spain? Reply with quote

In article <3vjbn1lnenfvhtcfbq7nhlffog7um9gccl@4ax.com>, Bill Hayles
<billnot@billnot.com> writes
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:49:25 +0000, Graham <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Jim Watt wrote:
[snip]

broadband
remarkably cheap in Spain so let us know how you get on.

In my experience, it is not as cheap as the UK where you get MUCH
greater bandwidth for a lot less money!

We are wandering off topic, but much prefer my Spanish deal to
anything in the UK. Fixed IP, unlimited download, as many computers
as I like (currently 5), 1Mb / 256Kb for 40 Euros per month.


Ummm.. you can get a 2 meg down 256 up, fixed I/P's unlimited download
and as many PC's as your NAT router will allow for that Bill back in
blighty....


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Jim Watt
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Will an UK Freeview box work in Spain? Reply with quote

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:35:42 GMT, Bill Hayles <billnot@billnot.com>
wrote:

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I have two boxes - one is my old Quiero box (remember them?)

Yeah I tried hard to get one and got as far as signing a contract
before they went under. Lots of pressure to get there as most
vendors said 'no quiero'. someone apart from me wanted to see
Gran Hermano.
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: Will an UK Freeview box work in Spain? Reply with quote

Jim Watt wrote:
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I saw a poster for TDT at a Spanish shop,
but they did not have
any product on the shelves to look at.

El Corte Ingles were doing a promotion for
terrestrial digital.

If you go to www.elcorteingles.es and put
digital in the search box. then the first two
items found are digital boxes, one with a
dish and one without.
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: Will an UK Freeview box work in Spain? Reply with quote

Nigel Barker wrote:

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I just checked & I pay 34.90 Euros (23.50GBP) for 8Mb/s uncapped. So far this
month I have used >45GB & we are one third through the month.

Which company? We've got a 512Mb uncapped line (out in the "stix")
which costs ~25 euros a month.
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Will an UK Freeview box work in Spain? Reply with quote

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:16:43 +0000, Graham <me@privacy.net> wrote:

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Nigel Barker wrote:

I just checked & I pay 34.90 Euros (23.50GBP) for 8Mb/s uncapped. So far this
month I have used >45GB & we are one third through the month.

Which company? We've got a 512Mb uncapped line (out in the "stix")
which costs ~25 euros a month.
Wanadoo. I just double checked & in fact we are paying just 29.90 Euros per

month for 8Mb/s uncapped (just over 20 pounds). The price must have gone down
from the 34.90 we were originally paying.

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Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur
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Walt Davidson
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Will an UK Freeview box work in Spain? Reply with quote

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:31:42 GMT, Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> wrote:

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I just double checked & in fact we are paying just 29.90 Euros per
month for 8Mb/s uncapped (just over 20 pounds). The price must have gone down
from the 34.90 we were originally paying.

Is that an ADSL service, or ISDN? The highest ADSL speed available in
my area (Gloucestershire) is 2 Mb/s. I am paying GBP 23.44 a month
to Pipex for 2 Mb/s uncapped. That also includes a dozen mailboxes, a
news server and a web site. There is also a free dial-up (0800) V32
service as fallback, which I have never had to use.

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Nigel Goodwin
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Will an UK Freeview box work in Spain? Reply with quote

In message <52rgn15olmgpa0hnk533qtd9upd7tglh8d@4ax.com>, Walt Davidson
<g3nyy@despammed.com> writes
Quote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:31:42 GMT, Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> wrote:

I just double checked & in fact we are paying just 29.90 Euros per
month for 8Mb/s uncapped (just over 20 pounds). The price must have gone down
from the 34.90 we were originally paying.

Is that an ADSL service, or ISDN? The highest ADSL speed available in
my area (Gloucestershire) is 2 Mb/s. I am paying GBP 23.44 a month
to Pipex for 2 Mb/s uncapped. That also includes a dozen mailboxes, a
news server and a web site. There is also a free dial-up (0800) V32
service as fallback, which I have never had to use.


ISDN is far slower and MUCH more expensive, and you have to pay while on
line.

2Mb/s is the maximum ADSL supported by BT, but following changes in
legislation other ISP's are now starting LLU (Local Loop Unbundling),
which allows the ISP to fit their own equipment in the exchange. This
gives potentially up to 8Mb/s, but only very close to the exchange, and
most probably only in large cities - it's not cost effective otherwise.
Some ISP's are also suggesting up to 24Mb/s, presumably even closer to
the exchange?.
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