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Hi guys,

I am relocating to Spain soon, and would like to know if it is worth
taking my British tv set (tv-vcr combo) and freeview box. Once we tried
a French tv set here in Britain with the Freeview box and it worked
fine! So I wonder if it's the same for Spain.

Does anybody know if they would work over there?

Thanks for any help!

Athina

On 10 Nov 2005 09:23:49 -0800, "Athina" <soy_athina@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Hi guys,

I am relocating to Spain soon, and would like to know if it is worth
taking my British tv set (tv-vcr combo) and freeview box. Once we tried
a French tv set here in Britain with the Freeview box and it worked
fine! So I wonder if it's the same for Spain.

Does anybody know if they would work over there?

The freeview box will work, but will obviously get Spanish
channels. They are rolling out DTT at present.

However, broadcast analogue is pal B/G so unless your
UK television supports that in addition to UK Pal I it may
be better to sell it and buy a new one locally.
--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

On 10 Nov 2005 13:29:34 -0800, "Athina" <soy_athina@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Hi Jim,

Thanks for your reply. My TV set is only Pal I, so I won't take it with
me.

Regarding the Freeview box, I did a bit of research on the Internet and
my model (Nokia 221T) is not sold in Spain. There seem to be different
standards for DTT as well, do you reckon that it will work anyway or
does it need to comply with a specific standard?

I've tried three different UK boxes, they all worked. Two allowed the
modulator to be set for PAL-G the other one only had a SCART
anyway, which is what one wants as TVE is wide screen and stereo
on DTT or whatever their acronym is. I get a 98% signal and don't
live in Spain ...


--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

Hi Jim,

Thanks for your reply. My TV set is only Pal I, so I won't take it with
me.

Regarding the Freeview box, I did a bit of research on the Internet and
my model (Nokia 221T) is not sold in Spain. There seem to be different
standards for DTT as well, do you reckon that it will work anyway or
does it need to comply with a specific standard?

Cheers,
Athina

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:35:55 GMT, Bill Hayles <billnot@billnot.com>
wrote:

I promise you it will work - but obviously for Spanish TDT (their
equivalent of Freeview). Depending on where you are going to be in
Spain, you may not get any more than the 5 national channels
(TVE1,2,A3,C4 & T5) for the time being.

I saw a poster for TDT at a Spanish shop, but they did not have
any product on the shelves to look at.

I can see four MUX's on my spectrum analyser here, but only
one resolves into anything useful on the freeview box.

BTW has the move of ITV1 + 2 to a V transponder helped your
reception of A2D ?
--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

Thanks for the link to the costablancaexpats website. I am moving to
Madrid, but still find the information extremely useful!!

I speak Spanish, so the forum you mentioned is very handy too.

¡MUCHAS GRACIAS, Bill & Jim! :-)

On 10 Nov 2005 13:29:34 -0800, "Athina" <soy_athina@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Hi Jim,

Thanks for your reply. My TV set is only Pal I, so I won't take it with
me.

Regarding the Freeview box, I did a bit of research on the Internet and
my model (Nokia 221T) is not sold in Spain. There seem to be different
standards for DTT as well, do you reckon that it will work anyway or
does it need to comply with a specific standard?

I promise you it will work - but obviously for Spanish TDT (their
equivalent of Freeview). Depending on where you are going to be in
Spain, you may not get any more than the 5 national channels
(TVE1,2,A3,C4 & T5) for the time being.

If you speak Spanish, there is a thriving forum about TDT at

http://www.televisiondigital.electronic ... /index.php

(look out for postings from that mad Englishman billnot).

You don't say which part of Spain you're moving to, but you may find
useful information at

http://costablancaexpats.net

(despite the name, we cover much of Spain)

Check out the FAQ on television.

Bill Hayles
groups@billnot.com
http://www.digiboxes.org

Jim Watt wrote:
[snip]

broadband
remarkably cheap in Spain so let us know how you get on.

In my experience, it is not as cheap as the UK where you get MUCH
greater bandwidth for a lot less money!

On 11 Nov 2005 08:15:26 -0800, "Athina" <soy_athina@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Thanks for the link to the costablancaexpats website. I am moving to
Madrid, but still find the information extremely useful!!

I speak Spanish, so the forum you mentioned is very handy too.

¡MUCHAS GRACIAS, Bill & Jim! :-)

Well, the Internet is alive and well and broadband
remarkably cheap in Spain so let us know how you get on.

A lot of effort in these parts is involved in getting British
television. Currently there are five Spanish national, one
regional and more local TV stations on analogue than
I can count, along with a couple of hundred on Canal+
satellite, so if you like television there is enough.

The Spanish national digital terrestial plan allows for 128
channels everywhere.

But my favourite is Southpark in German ...

Saludos cordiales
--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:49:25 +0000, Graham <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Jim Watt wrote:
[snip]

broadband
remarkably cheap in Spain so let us know how you get on.

In my experience, it is not as cheap as the UK where you get MUCH
greater bandwidth for a lot less money!

I don't know how the UK compares to Spain but compared to France it is _much_
more expensive for lower speeds & we don't have capped subscriptions either.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:49:25 +0000, Graham <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Jim Watt wrote:
[snip]

broadband
remarkably cheap in Spain so let us know how you get on.

In my experience, it is not as cheap as the UK where you get MUCH
greater bandwidth for a lot less money!

Its a hell of a lot cheaper and faster than mine. There are
also innovative wireless services springing up which provide delivery
to the more remote locations.

"President of Telefonica, Julio Linares, forecast that by 2010 more
than 60 per cent of Spanish homes should have a broadband connection
of up to 50Mb, this will require an estimated investment of around E 4
billion."

When buying internet you also need to look at the contention ratio
thats rather like the practice of airlines overselling seating
capacity except with the net you do get squeezed in somehow.
--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

Now that you mentioned it, which broadband company do you recommend in
Spain that is cheap and reliable?

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:49:25 +0000, Graham <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Jim Watt wrote:
[snip]

broadband
remarkably cheap in Spain so let us know how you get on.

In my experience, it is not as cheap as the UK where you get MUCH
greater bandwidth for a lot less money!

We are wandering off topic, but much prefer my Spanish deal to
anything in the UK. Fixed IP, unlimited download, as many computers
as I like (currently 5), 1Mb / 256Kb for 40 Euros per month.

I run a server on that, and in the 3 years I've had it, it's been
down (other than through my own maintenance) for less than 15
minutes.

Telefonica may suck in many ways, but they've got this service spot
on.

Bill Hayles
groups@billnot.com
http://www.digiboxes.org

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:27:23 GMT, Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:49:25 +0000, Graham <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Jim Watt wrote:
[snip]

broadband
remarkably cheap in Spain so let us know how you get on.

In my experience, it is not as cheap as the UK where you get MUCH
greater bandwidth for a lot less money!

I don't know how the UK compares to Spain but compared to France it is _much_
more expensive for lower speeds & we don't have capped subscriptions either.

I just checked & I pay 34.90 Euros (23.50GBP) for 8Mb/s uncapped. So far this
month I have used >45GB & we are one third through the month.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:39:00 +0100, Jim Watt <jimwatt@aol.no_way>
wrote:

But my favourite is Southpark in German ...
..... Los Simpson in Spanish - the voice likeness is uncanny.

Saludos cordiales
Un abrazo

Bill Hayles
groups@billnot.com
http://www.digiboxes.org