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by **Drewdawg** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:08 pm

So far it sounds as good as to better than Music Choice. I think it sounds
better than XM on their receivers as I believe DirecTV is getting their
feeds directly from XM rather than through the XM radio system.

Audio quality, IMHO, is pushing the limits of what DTV can deliver on their
audio-only channels. I didn't expect CD quality and I'm happy with what I'm
getting. IMHO the quality is typical FM quality, by that I mean I've heard
better FM stations and I've heard worse.

I don't think they're using much in the way of processing, though the one
station MC excelled at (Radio Disney sounded compression free) sounds a bit
flat on DirecXM.

Cheers: Better playlists
Jeers: Weak DJs on some stations

Overall, I'd give it an 8 out of 10.

Once they get the channels worked out (Cafe & Fred seem to have switched
places) it should work out.

P.S.: I wish they'd replace "High Voltage" (Opie & Andy and Ron & Fez) with
"Extreme XM". XM's version of Howard Stern doesn't appeal to me. As always,
IMHO - YMMV

by **slunky** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:36 pm

_/At 2005-11-16, Mark <makolber@yahoo.com> wrote\_

The dumb DJ and Jingles on the 60's channel suck.

I agree completely.

I want my Music Choice Oldies Channel back!

I belive Music Choice is still available online at musicchoice.com. I
know it's not the same, but it's there.

--
-slunky

by **fredtv** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:13 am

So far it sounds as good as to better than Music Choice. I think it sounds
better than XM on their receivers as I believe DirecTV is getting their
feeds directly from XM rather than through the XM radio system.

I noticed a much wider dynamic range on the Broadway station. When the
singers belt...They belt.

by **Mark** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:25 am

fredtv wrote:

So far it sounds as good as to better than Music Choice. I think it sounds
better than XM on their receivers as I believe DirecTV is getting their
feeds directly from XM rather than through the XM radio system.

I noticed a much wider dynamic range on the Broadway station. When the
singers belt...They belt.

The dumb DJ and Jingles on the 60's channel suck.
I want my Music Choice Oldies Channel back!

But I'll give the Blues and Classic Rock a try.

Mark

by **Guest** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:08 am

The dumb DJ and Jingles on the 60's channel suck.
I want my Music Choice Oldies Channel back!

I don't care for the 60s-era DJ chatter -- but a lot of people prefer
it. They've been replaying the old Wolfman Jack shows lately, and
while I don't care for it at all, this is a great attraction for many.

But I'll give the Blues and Classic Rock a try.

The Blues channel, as well as TopTracks and Deeptracks are fantastic.
But they take a little getting used to. Also well worth a listen is
X-Country and the Folk Music channel, the Classic Soul channel if
you're into that and on occasion, the Hear Music channel.

There are way too many choices.

by **Mark Crispin** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:08 am

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Drewdawg wrote:

So far it sounds as good as to better than Music Choice. I think it sounds
better than XM on their receivers as I believe DirecTV is getting their
feeds directly from XM rather than through the XM radio system.

Really? My experience is that, played through the *same* amplifier and
speakers, DirecTV (Samsung SIR-TS160) XM sound quality is noticably
inferior than from an XM receiver (MyFi). Back to back, simply switching
source, the sound is tinny on DTV.

I might believe that the DTV XM going though a decent video system might
sound better than an XM boombox. The boombox may be convenient, but it
does not constitute a quality stereo system... I'm not doing that.

I have both sources going through an amplifier and real speakers (I don't
see how *anyone* could tolerate the walkie-talkie speakers on most TVs).

-- Mark --

http://panda.com/mrc
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

by **Mark Crispin** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:08 am

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Mark Crispin wrote:

My experience is that, played through the *same* amplifier and
speakers, DirecTV (Samsung SIR-TS160) XM sound quality is noticably inferior
than from an XM receiver (MyFi). Back to back, simply switching source, the
sound is tinny on DTV.

I did notice that DTV is a few seconds ahead of XM.

-- Mark --

http://panda.com/mrc
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

by **Taylor** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:08 am

slunky wrote:

_/At 2005-11-16, Mark <makolber@yahoo.com> wrote\_

The dumb DJ and Jingles on the 60's channel suck.

I agree completely.

I want my Music Choice Oldies Channel back!

I belive Music Choice is still available online at musicchoice.com. I
know it's not the same, but it's there.

Aren't the people at Music Choice a little ticked off at DirecTV for
dumping their services.

Ever been to CanAmSatellites.com (http://www.canamsatellites.com/)? You
can buy either a Bell ExpressVu or a Star Choice system. Subscribe to
even the most BASIC of packages and get free Max Trax and Galaxie music
services. When I lost my DTV subscription (damn P4P5 cards!), I gave
digital cable a chance.

http://www.galaxie.ca/ (CBC)
http://www.maxtrax.com/ (Corus Entertainment)

by **Jack Zwick** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:08 pm

In article <%ZBef.2391$w84.435473@news20.bellglobal.com>,
Taylor <taylor.taylor@gmail.com> wrote:

slunky wrote:

_/At 2005-11-16, Mark <makolber@yahoo.com> wrote\_

The dumb DJ and Jingles on the 60's channel suck.

I agree completely.

I want my Music Choice Oldies Channel back!

I belive Music Choice is still available online at musicchoice.com. I
know it's not the same, but it's there.

Aren't the people at Music Choice a little ticked off at DirecTV for
dumping their services.

Ever been to CanAmSatellites.com (http://www.canamsatellites.com/)? You
can buy either a Bell ExpressVu or a Star Choice system. Subscribe to
even the most BASIC of packages and get free Max Trax and Galaxie music
services. When I lost my DTV subscription (damn P4P5 cards!), I gave
digital cable a chance.

http://www.galaxie.ca/ (CBC)
http://www.maxtrax.com/ (Corus Entertainment)

Sounds Like DirecTv properly stopped you from theft of service. Not
quite the same thing as a loss as if thats the case, you never has a
subscription.

by **slunky** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:39 pm

_/At 2005-11-16, Bob <ram1220@vzavenue.net> wrote\_

I still can't find a song that I know or even like on XM. So far I
hate it. Sirius is so much better IN MY OPINION.

Then listen to Sirius.

--
-slunky

by **Bob M** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:08 pm

Drewdawg wrote:

So far it sounds as good as to better than Music Choice. I think it sounds
better than XM on their receivers as I believe DirecTV is getting their
feeds directly from XM rather than through the XM radio system.

Audio quality, IMHO, is pushing the limits of what DTV can deliver on their
audio-only channels. I didn't expect CD quality and I'm happy with what I'm
getting. IMHO the quality is typical FM quality, by that I mean I've heard
better FM stations and I've heard worse.

I don't think they're using much in the way of processing, though the one
station MC excelled at (Radio Disney sounded compression free) sounds a bit
flat on DirecXM.

Cheers: Better playlists
Jeers: Weak DJs on some stations

Overall, I'd give it an 8 out of 10.

Once they get the channels worked out (Cafe & Fred seem to have switched
places) it should work out.

P.S.: I wish they'd replace "High Voltage" (Opie & Andy and Ron & Fez) with
"Extreme XM". XM's version of Howard Stern doesn't appeal to me. As always,
IMHO - YMMV

I still can't find a song that I know or even like on XM. So far I

hate it. Sirius is so much better IN MY OPINION.

Bob

by **John A. Weeks III** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:08 pm

In article <Ic2dnUsmu-uXFObenZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@texas.net>,
Bob M <ram1220@vzavenue.net> wrote:

I still can't find a song that I know or even like on XM. So far I
hate it. Sirius is so much better IN MY OPINION.

Bob...this is a key XM versus Sirius debate. XM has a huge music
catalog, something like 300,000 songs, whereas Sirius has a far
smaller catalog, something like 50,000 songs.

With XM, at first, you are going to hear a lot of stuff that you
don't recognize. But over time, your musical taste will expand
as your listen to a lot of new stuff. Eventually, this will
become your new normal.

With Sirius, you hear the same few songs over and over. The
result is that you nearly always hear something you know and
like. The problem is that this is it...you never grow your
musical tastes.

Some folks like the XM way, others like the Sirius way. That
is personal taste. In my case, I have both.

But I wouldn't go so far as to say that one is right or one
is wrong. They are different, and appeal to different people.
That is actually good in that more people will find something
that the like in the end.

-john-

--
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John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 john@johnweeks.com
Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com
======================================================================

by **onehellofafatheroneangelo** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:45 am

Jack Zwick wrote:

In article <%ZBef.2391$w84.435473@news20.bellglobal.com>,
Taylor <taylor.taylor@gmail.com> wrote:

slunky wrote:

_/At 2005-11-16, Mark <makolber@yahoo.com> wrote\_

The dumb DJ and Jingles on the 60's channel suck.

I agree completely.

I want my Music Choice Oldies Channel back!

I belive Music Choice is still available online at musicchoice.com. I
know it's not the same, but it's there.

Aren't the people at Music Choice a little ticked off at DirecTV for
dumping their services.

Ever been to CanAmSatellites.com (http://www.canamsatellites.com/)? You
can buy either a Bell ExpressVu or a Star Choice system. Subscribe to
even the most BASIC of packages and get free Max Trax and Galaxie music
services. When I lost my DTV subscription (damn P4P5 cards!), I gave
digital cable a chance.

http://www.galaxie.ca/ (CBC)
http://www.maxtrax.com/ (Corus Entertainment)

Sounds Like DirecTv properly stopped you from theft of service. Not
quite the same thing as a loss as if thats the case, you never has a
subscription.

You want to get Canadian and American BDUs (broadcasting distribution
undertakings), the CRTC and FCC together along w/ a bunch of whiny
Canadian cable broadcasting watchdog groups together and hammer out a
deal where a Canadian can legally subscribe to the foreign satellite
programming of their choice? Thought not.

by **Jack Zwick** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:08 pm

In article <nlwff.3124$KP5.420526@news20.bellglobal.com>,
onehellofafatheroneangelofason
<onehellofafatheroneangelofason@onehellofafatheroneangelofason.com>
wrote:

Jack Zwick wrote:

In article <%ZBef.2391$w84.435473@news20.bellglobal.com>,
Taylor <taylor.taylor@gmail.com> wrote:

slunky wrote:

_/At 2005-11-16, Mark <makolber@yahoo.com> wrote\_

The dumb DJ and Jingles on the 60's channel suck.

I agree completely.

I want my Music Choice Oldies Channel back!

I belive Music Choice is still available online at musicchoice.com. I
know it's not the same, but it's there.

Aren't the people at Music Choice a little ticked off at DirecTV for
dumping their services.

Ever been to CanAmSatellites.com (http://www.canamsatellites.com/)? You
can buy either a Bell ExpressVu or a Star Choice system. Subscribe to
even the most BASIC of packages and get free Max Trax and Galaxie music
services. When I lost my DTV subscription (damn P4P5 cards!), I gave
digital cable a chance.

http://www.galaxie.ca/ (CBC)
http://www.maxtrax.com/ (Corus Entertainment)

Sounds Like DirecTv properly stopped you from theft of service. Not
quite the same thing as a loss as if thats the case, you never has a
subscription.

You want to get Canadian and American BDUs (broadcasting distribution
undertakings), the CRTC and FCC together along w/ a bunch of whiny
Canadian cable broadcasting watchdog groups together and hammer out a
deal where a Canadian can legally subscribe to the foreign satellite
programming of their choice? Thought not.

So you were illegal. Thought so.

by **Gary Tait** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:08 pm

onehellofafatheroneangelofason
<onehellofafatheroneangelofason@onehellofafatheroneangelofason.com> wrote
in news:nlwff.3124$KP5.420526@news20.bellglobal.com:

You want to get Canadian and American BDUs (broadcasting distribution
undertakings), the CRTC and FCC together along w/ a bunch of whiny
Canadian cable broadcasting watchdog groups together and hammer out a
deal where a Canadian can legally subscribe to the foreign satellite
programming of their choice? Thought not.

That has nothing to do with someone stealing service. Yes, if you want the
US channels in Canada legally, you petition the regultors to change the
laws to make it legal. Pirating the service does not help that cause one
bit.

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