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onehellofafatheroneangelo
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:36 am Post subject:
Re: Time to dump expressvu |
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ICEMAN wrote:
| Quote: | What does Dish and DirectTv has to offer that is so much better?
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Better (entertainment) value for your dollar.
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"Jim McColl" <j_a_mccoll @em-ess-n.com> wrote in message
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In message <MbWef.199428$ir4.62776@edtnps90> "Fred" <Fred@zzz.net
wrote:
This latest price increase has convinced me to dump this rip-off company.
When I initially signed on the basics were only 8.95, now they are 3x
the
price! While almost every other digital appliance/service has come down
in
price, Bell just continues to skyrocket. What are we really getting
anyways,
CBC, CTV in 4-5 time zones and the networks. Starchoice is not an option
since they charge for extra receivers. Can you spell monopoly? My local
cable supplies the same for $17/month and I can even watch one channel
while
recording another.
Yeah definitely... Personally, I'm scheduling my disconnection for
December 31st, which is the day prior to when the price increase takes
effect.
--
In case of accidental ingestion, consult a mortician.
In Bell's defence, I don't think they are responsible for the programming
they have available to them to pass on to their viewers. They are a
network provider and content deliverer Also, the increasing price
increases my be due to underlying increases they have to pay to their
program providers. Expressvu is far from being a cash cow for Bell from
what I read.
They do own CTV and TSN, but other than that , they have to negotiate with
the various channel providers who are licensed by the CRTC. They do want
to create the appearance of value and generate revenues,by offering a lot
of channels, many of which turn out to be a complete waste of time. But do
they really have a choice in this, when this practice was already in place
throughout the industry and in Ontario at least was started by Rogers? The
Canadian Content and licensing restrictions, mean they can not just offer
anything that is available in the US.
In regards to signal and quality, I find it to be excellent. Dishnet uses
the same technology (Echo Star) as Bell, so how could Bell's picture and
sound be different.
In terms of prices, I am coming off a 2 year contract in December
(Ultimate 7). To renew with pretty much the same programming will cost me
about $10 more. This is an average of slightly under 5% a year which is a
bit high these days, but not outrageous. I just purchased a 9200
receiver, which comes in a kit with: a satellite upgrade kit, including
dish and LNBF, IR and UHF remotes, composite video cables, sound cables,
HDM/DVI cables and SW44 multi switch. The only cable I had to buy was an
optical sound cable which gives far superior audio quality and 5..1 sound.
At $600, I think it is an excellent price. As to customer service, I have
had occasion to call them a few times for assistance recently shortly
after the 9200 was installed. I found I got through with little delay, and
the people I talked to were able to resolve my problems quickly. I know
Bell in genreal has a reputation, which has been well earned in recent
years, for lousy customer service. In think they are finally aware of
this and seem to be improving things if ever so gradually. One of the big
problem I find are the Bell World stores. These are franchises and are not
owned by Bell. Frequently their staff are untrained or poorly trained and
can botch things up quite badly. I don't know what Bell plans to do about
this, but I think this may be one of their big problems.
Finally, I won't argue that Dishnet and likely DirecTV have better
programming than Canadian suppliers. However since I live in Canada, I
will continue to support our businesses who provide employment and taxes
for our country as well as Canadian content.
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onehellofafatheroneangelo
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:38 am Post subject:
Re: Time to dump expressvu |
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RAZ wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 02:35:46 -0500, Taylor <taylor.taylor@gmail.com
wrote:
Exactly! I would blissfully pay $90 a month Canadian (w/ my credit card
and a fake U.S mailing address) for everything short of U.S. paytv (no
Don't use your Canadian credit cad! You'll get cut off.
roberta
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Really? Would the Canadian credit card company (example Visa) cut off
your credit card for this act because it's illegal. lol Lots of people
use their c.c. to pay for a lot of illegal things (example real Mexican
snuff films, bomb making materials, etc.). |
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DevilsPGD
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:08 am Post subject:
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In message <jqgtn1lu65mee7tn7pn66mvf0492n5nc5h@4ax.com> Dante
<Dante@TheInferno.net> wrote:
Who doesn't?
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Dante
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:08 am Post subject:
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On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:38:34 -0500, onehellofafatheroneangelofason
<onehellofafatheroneangelofason@onehellofafatheroneangelofason.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | real Mexican
snuff films
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Who wants to see movies of Mexicans using snuff? Achoo!
LOL |
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Jack
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:08 am Post subject:
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"ICEMAN" <cos1969@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | What does Dish and DirectTv has to offer that is so much better?
HBO for one... |
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DevilsPGD
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:08 am Post subject:
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In message <Jewff.3119$KP5.420351@news20.bellglobal.com>
onehellofafatheroneangelofason
<onehellofafatheroneangelofason@onehellofafatheroneangelofason.com>
wrote:
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RAZ wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 02:35:46 -0500, Taylor <taylor.taylor@gmail.com
wrote:
Exactly! I would blissfully pay $90 a month Canadian (w/ my credit card
and a fake U.S mailing address) for everything short of U.S. paytv (no
Don't use your Canadian credit cad! You'll get cut off.
roberta
Really? Would the Canadian credit card company (example Visa) cut off
your credit card for this act because it's illegal. lol Lots of people
use their c.c. to pay for a lot of illegal things (example real Mexican
snuff films, bomb making materials, etc.).
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No, Dish will cut you off...
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ICEMAN
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
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Doesn't M carry most of HBO's programming? I've never had dish or Direct tv
so that is why i'm asking.
"Jack" <bigcletus@yahoo.com.com> wrote in message
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"ICEMAN" <cos1969@gmail.com> wrote in message
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What does Dish and DirectTv has to offer that is so much better?
HBO for one...
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ICEMAN
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
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Like what???????
"onehellofafatheroneangelofason"
<onehellofafatheroneangelofason@onehellofafatheroneangelofason.com> wrote in
message news:Lcwff.3118$KP5.420296@news20.bellglobal.com...
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ICEMAN wrote:
What does Dish and DirectTv has to offer that is so much better?
Better (entertainment) value for your dollar.
"Jim McColl" <j_a_mccoll @em-ess-n.com> wrote in message
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"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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In message <MbWef.199428$ir4.62776@edtnps90> "Fred" <Fred@zzz.net
wrote:
This latest price increase has convinced me to dump this rip-off
company.
When I initially signed on the basics were only 8.95, now they are 3x
the
price! While almost every other digital appliance/service has come down
in
price, Bell just continues to skyrocket. What are we really getting
anyways,
CBC, CTV in 4-5 time zones and the networks. Starchoice is not an
option
since they charge for extra receivers. Can you spell monopoly? My
local
cable supplies the same for $17/month and I can even watch one channel
while
recording another.
Yeah definitely... Personally, I'm scheduling my disconnection for
December 31st, which is the day prior to when the price increase takes
effect.
--
In case of accidental ingestion, consult a mortician.
In Bell's defence, I don't think they are responsible for the programming
they have available to them to pass on to their viewers. They are a
network provider and content deliverer Also, the increasing price
increases my be due to underlying increases they have to pay to their
program providers. Expressvu is far from being a cash cow for Bell from
what I read.
They do own CTV and TSN, but other than that , they have to negotiate
with the various channel providers who are licensed by the CRTC. They do
want to create the appearance of value and generate revenues,by offering
a lot of channels, many of which turn out to be a complete waste of time.
But do they really have a choice in this, when this practice was already
in place throughout the industry and in Ontario at least was started by
Rogers? The Canadian Content and licensing restrictions, mean they can
not just offer anything that is available in the US.
In regards to signal and quality, I find it to be excellent. Dishnet
uses the same technology (Echo Star) as Bell, so how could Bell's picture
and sound be different.
In terms of prices, I am coming off a 2 year contract in December
(Ultimate 7). To renew with pretty much the same programming will cost me
about $10 more. This is an average of slightly under 5% a year which is a
bit high these days, but not outrageous. I just purchased a 9200
receiver, which comes in a kit with: a satellite upgrade kit, including
dish and LNBF, IR and UHF remotes, composite video cables, sound cables,
HDM/DVI cables and SW44 multi switch. The only cable I had to buy was an
optical sound cable which gives far superior audio quality and 5..1
sound. At $600, I think it is an excellent price. As to customer service,
I have had occasion to call them a few times for assistance recently
shortly after the 9200 was installed. I found I got through with little
delay, and the people I talked to were able to resolve my problems
quickly. I know Bell in genreal has a reputation, which has been well
earned in recent years, for lousy customer service. In think they are
finally aware of this and seem to be improving things if ever so
gradually. One of the big problem I find are the Bell World stores. These
are franchises and are not owned by Bell. Frequently their staff are
untrained or poorly trained and can botch things up quite badly. I don't
know what Bell plans to do about this, but I think this may be one of
their big problems.
Finally, I won't argue that Dishnet and likely DirecTV have better
programming than Canadian suppliers. However since I live in Canada, I
will continue to support our businesses who provide employment and taxes
for our country as well as Canadian content.
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shane
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
Re: Time to dump expressvu |
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wow you must be getting some kick back from bell for that load of baloney.
"Jim McColl" <j_a_mccoll @em-ess-n.com> wrote in message
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"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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In message <MbWef.199428$ir4.62776@edtnps90> "Fred" <Fred@zzz.net
wrote:
This latest price increase has convinced me to dump this rip-off
company.
When I initially signed on the basics were only 8.95, now they are 3x
the
price! While almost every other digital appliance/service has come down
in
price, Bell just continues to skyrocket. What are we really getting
anyways,
CBC, CTV in 4-5 time zones and the networks. Starchoice is not an option
since they charge for extra receivers. Can you spell monopoly? My local
cable supplies the same for $17/month and I can even watch one channel
while
recording another.
Yeah definitely... Personally, I'm scheduling my disconnection for
December 31st, which is the day prior to when the price increase takes
effect.
--
In case of accidental ingestion, consult a mortician.
In Bell's defence, I don't think they are responsible for the programming
they have available to them to pass on to their viewers. They are a
network
provider and content deliverer Also, the increasing price increases my be
due to underlying increases they have to pay to their program providers.
Expressvu is far from being a cash cow for Bell from what I read.
They do own CTV and TSN, but other than that , they have to negotiate
with
the various channel providers who are licensed by the CRTC. They do want
to
create the appearance of value and generate revenues,by offering a lot of
channels, many of which turn out to be a complete waste of time. But do
they
really have a choice in this, when this practice was already in place
throughout the industry and in Ontario at least was started by Rogers? The
Canadian Content and licensing restrictions, mean they can not just offer
anything that is available in the US.
In regards to signal and quality, I find it to be excellent. Dishnet uses
the same technology (Echo Star) as Bell, so how could Bell's picture and
sound be different.
In terms of prices, I am coming off a 2 year contract in December
(Ultimate
7). To renew with pretty much the same programming will cost me about $10
more. This is an average of slightly under 5% a year which is a bit high
these days, but not outrageous. I just purchased a 9200 receiver, which
comes in a kit with: a satellite upgrade kit, including dish and LNBF, IR
and UHF remotes, composite video cables, sound cables, HDM/DVI cables and
SW44 multi switch. The only cable I had to buy was an optical sound cable
which gives far superior audio quality and 5..1 sound. At $600, I think it
is an excellent price. As to customer service, I have had occasion to call
them a few times for assistance recently shortly after the 9200 was
installed. I found I got through with little delay, and the people I
talked
to were able to resolve my problems quickly. I know Bell in genreal has a
reputation, which has been well earned in recent years, for lousy
customer
service. In think they are finally aware of this and seem to be improving
things if ever so gradually. One of the big problem I find are the Bell
World stores. These are franchises and are not owned by Bell. Frequently
their staff are untrained or poorly trained and can botch things up quite
badly. I don't know what Bell plans to do about this, but I think this may
be one of their big problems.
Finally, I won't argue that Dishnet and likely DirecTV have better
programming than Canadian suppliers. However since I live in Canada, I
will
continue to support our businesses who provide employment and taxes for
our
country as well as Canadian content.
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Woodsie
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
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It's guys like him that get seats on the socialist supreme court of canada
or the even worse: CRTC!
ROFLMAO!
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However since I live in Canada, I will continue to support our businesses
who provide employment and taxes for our country as well as Canadian
content.
now thats funny as hell!!! |
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Bent Wili
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
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shane wrote:
| Quote: | wow you must be getting some kick back from bell for that load of baloney.
Shane. |
Perhaps, you'd rather live south of the border than you could get all
you want to watch LEGALLY. You know instead of being a theiving
pirate. As well, if you are still young enough, you could join the
reserves, go to Iraq, and shoot people. Then you could do something
legal for a change, and with 'Merican legality.<G> |
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One Hell, One Angel
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Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
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DevilsPGD wrote:
| Quote: | In message <Jewff.3119$KP5.420351@news20.bellglobal.com
onehellofafatheroneangelofason
onehellofafatheroneangelofason@onehellofafatheroneangelofason.com
wrote:
RAZ wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 02:35:46 -0500, Taylor <taylor.taylor@gmail.com
wrote:
Exactly! I would blissfully pay $90 a month Canadian (w/ my credit card
and a fake U.S mailing address) for everything short of U.S. paytv (no
Don't use your Canadian credit cad! You'll get cut off.
roberta
Really? Would the Canadian credit card company (example Visa) cut off
your credit card for this act because it's illegal. lol Lots of people
use their c.c. to pay for a lot of illegal things (example real Mexican
snuff films, bomb making materials, etc.).
No, Dish will cut you off...
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lol Oh, _that_! Alright. I'll take that into consideration. |
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One Hell, One Angel
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Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
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Dante wrote:
lmao
Is it just a rumour that Mexican snuff film producers use to get
American men w/ advanced HIV/AIDS to come down to Mexico to
"act"/"appear" (get killed) in their snuff films and the men got paid
handsomely and that money received would go to the families after their
deaths? |
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DB
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Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:08 am Post subject:
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it is a myth
"One Hell, One Angel" <onehelloneangel@onehellofafatheroneangelofason.com>
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Dante wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:38:34 -0500, onehellofafatheroneangelofason
onehellofafatheroneangelofason@onehellofafatheroneangelofason.com
wrote:
real Mexican snuff films
Who wants to see movies of Mexicans using snuff? Achoo!
LOL
lmao
Is it just a rumour that Mexican snuff film producers use to get American
men w/ advanced HIV/AIDS to come down to Mexico to "act"/"appear" (get
killed) in their snuff films and the men got paid handsomely and that
money received would go to the families after their deaths?
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Blacklab
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
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Well I had the do your own combo thing with 2 themes & movie networks, was
coming up to about $55.00, but would have had a price increase of about
$8.00-9.00 so lucky for them, instead of getting $8.00-9.00 more from me,
they are getting only $28.00 as I cancelled everything today and kept the
digital standard with the 2nd feed for the usa networks. so they lost allot
of money with me and they didn't seem to care, told the guy that I was
cancelling because of the price increase that was coming up in a month and
it didn't even bother him. Hopefully enough people will do the same or even
better stop completely and bell will realized that they are increasing their
prices too often and too much. I'm looking into cable television now as you
can now have tv, internet & telephone & I'm also looking into another cell
provider so that bell will realize that they need to treat their customers
allot better than they do right now.
I do wish we could get disnetwork or directtv, we are in a free country and
we should be able to decide what we want to do with our HARD EARNED money.
I know I work hard for my money, over 1/3 of it goes in taxes and what is
left I would like to be able to spend it on something I really want, not
what again the government wants, it's enough they are getting a 1/3 of it,
why should they tell me what to do with the rest of it.
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| Quote: | In message <MbWef.199428$ir4.62776@edtnps90> "Fred" <Fred@zzz.net
wrote:
This latest price increase has convinced me to dump this rip-off company.
When I initially signed on the basics were only 8.95, now they are 3x the
price! While almost every other digital appliance/service has come down in
price, Bell just continues to skyrocket. What are we really getting
anyways,
CBC, CTV in 4-5 time zones and the networks. Starchoice is not an option
since they charge for extra receivers. Can you spell monopoly? My local
cable supplies the same for $17/month and I can even watch one channel
while
recording another.
Yeah definitely... Personally, I'm scheduling my disconnection for
December 31st, which is the day prior to when the price increase takes
effect.
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In case of accidental ingestion, consult a mortician.
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