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Well I am ready to look for a replacement GPS for my Garmin 12. The one
feature I will not do without is the time/date stamping of Waypoints. Is
there a list somewhere of GPS models that have this feature?
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In Message-ID:<3ucb7sF10601nU1@individual.net> posted on Sun, 20 Nov
2005 13:22:04 -0900, Bill Bradshaw wrote: Begin

Well I am ready to look for a replacement GPS for my Garmin 12. The one
feature I will not do without is the time/date stamping of Waypoints. Is
there a list somewhere of GPS models that have this feature?

Don't they all do this by default?
Of course you can replace that stamp with your own comment.

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Bart

Bill Bradshaw wrote:

Well I am ready to look for a replacement GPS for my Garmin 12. The one
feature I will not do without is the time/date stamping of Waypoints. Is
there a list somewhere of GPS models that have this feature?

The 276C is one of the devices that supports this feature.

--
Bruce E. Stemplewski
GarXface OCX and C++ Class Library for the Garmin GPS
www.stempsoft.com

They may have skipped that feature in some of the etrex series.
I've only had a 45xl, 12xl, and now a 76cs that all time/date stamp.

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Bart

That's interesting. Strange they would have left it out on some models. It
would have been very useful and shouldn't have been hard to implement,
especially since they had already implemented it in earlier models. I just
fired up my old Vista, and there wasn't even a comment field in the
waypoint window. I remember that now -- I used to try to cram useful
information into the waypoint name! Now I wonder if they have it in the
Vista C.

John

In Message-ID:<ikbgf.3546$N45.1678@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>
posted on Mon, 21 Nov 2005 03:39:58 GMT, John Tyson wrote: Begin

"Bart Bailey" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message
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In Message-ID:<3ucb7sF10601nU1@individual.net> posted on Sun, 20 Nov
2005 13:22:04 -0900, Bill Bradshaw wrote: Begin

Well I am ready to look for a replacement GPS for my Garmin 12. The one
feature I will not do without is the time/date stamping of Waypoints. Is
there a list somewhere of GPS models that have this feature?

Don't they all do this by default?
Of course you can replace that stamp with your own comment.

--

Bart


From my own experience the original Vista did not time stamp waypoints, but
the 60 and 76 series do. I woud guess that all of the Garmin units that
have come out in the last couple of years do.

John

They may have skipped that feature in some of the etrex series.
I've only had a 45xl, 12xl, and now a 76cs that all time/date stamp.

--

Bart

"Bart Bailey" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message
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In Message-ID:<3ucb7sF10601nU1@individual.net> posted on Sun, 20 Nov
2005 13:22:04 -0900, Bill Bradshaw wrote: Begin

Well I am ready to look for a replacement GPS for my Garmin 12. The one
feature I will not do without is the time/date stamping of Waypoints. Is
there a list somewhere of GPS models that have this feature?

Don't they all do this by default?
Of course you can replace that stamp with your own comment.

--

Bart

From my own experience the original Vista did not time stamp waypoints, but
the 60 and 76 series do. I woud guess that all of the Garmin units that
have come out in the last couple of years do.

John

"John Tyson" <johnatyson@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:ikbgf.3546$N45.1678@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

From my own experience the original Vista did not time stamp waypoints,
but the 60 and 76 series do. I woud guess that all of the Garmin units
that have come out in the last couple of years do.

this is the date/time history as far as I got it:


Very old Garmins (like the GPS45) had waypoint names with 6 characters only,
and a waypoint comment field with 16 characters. When marking a waypoint,
they put the date/time into the comment field. In addition, they had an
undocumented data field in the communication protocol, with the date/time in
it, independent of the comment field.

Next Garmins (like the GPS12) had the same name and comment fields with
date/time, but the additional undocumented date/time field was gone.

Then (perhaps beginning with the Etrex series) the waypoint names increased
to 10 characters, and the comment field went away. I guess that Mr. Garmin
thought that 10 characters are enough to identify a waypoint. No more
date/time now.

But now the whole story begins to wrap back:

The 60 and 76 series got back the waypoint comment field with date/time.

And, most recently, there is a new transfer protocol (used by the 276C, at
least) which got back the additional date/time field which is independent of
the comment field.


But another thing remains inconsistent: some Garmins write the date/time as
UTC time, while others write the local time.


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Heinrich
http://www.gartrip.de
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In Message-ID:<dls158$n09$1@online.de> posted on Mon, 21 Nov 2005
09:39:45 +0100, Heinrich Pfeifer wrote: Begin

But another thing remains inconsistent: some Garmins write the date/time as
UTC time, while others write the local time.

I just checked and the 76cs puts the more desirable (to me) local time
stamp, whereas he 12xl uses the awkward UTC, as the 45 did.

--

Bart

In article <dls158$n09$1@online.de>, Heinrich Pfeifer <nws@gartrip.de> wrote:

Then (perhaps beginning with the Etrex series) the waypoint names increased
to 10 characters, and the comment field went away. I guess that Mr. Garmin
thought that 10 characters are enough to identify a waypoint. No more
date/time now.

I really wish they would make both fields longer. The 60 series has
enough screen space for 15 character waypoint names and 54 character
comment fields, but they aren't using it.

But another thing remains inconsistent: some Garmins write the date/time as
UTC time, while others write the local time.

Another inconsistency with the current 60/76 models: sometimes it will
write the time stamp in AM/PM format, sometimes in 24 hour format. I
have seen it do this on successive waypoints taken only a few minutes
apart.

And a rather disturbing bug: I have seen it write a date that was
one day off. I noticed this in Vienna in the middle of the day during
decent satellite coverage. So if the date/time stamp is important to you,
then you really should double check it.

I reported both of these problems several months ago, but I haven't
seen any indication that they have been fixed. (I have a 60CS.
All the 60/76 models share the same firmware. I don't know if
other current Garmin models have these problems too.)

+++
Lloyd Lee-Lim

In Message-ID:<dlsqr2$7lt$1@blue.rahul.net> posted on Mon, 21 Nov 2005
15:58:26 +0000 (UTC), Lloyd Lee-Lim wrote: Begin

Another inconsistency with the current 60/76 models: sometimes it will
write the time stamp in AM/PM format, sometimes in 24 hour format. I
have seen it do this on successive waypoints taken only a few minutes
apart.

And a rather disturbing bug: I have seen it write a date that was
one day off. I noticed this in Vienna in the middle of the day during
decent satellite coverage. So if the date/time stamp is important to you,
then you really should double check it.

I reported both of these problems several months ago, but I haven't
seen any indication that they have been fixed. (I have a 60CS.
All the 60/76 models share the same firmware. I don't know if
other current Garmin models have these problems too.)

Thanks for the heads-up, I usually put some other info in the time stamp
area and haven't bothered to check it for accuracy, but will start
confirming before overwriting just for curiosity.

--

Bart

The garmin GPS 60 does store the waypoint creation time.
Note however that trackpoints in a saved log to not retain the
creation time that they possess when they are in the active log (I hope
this might get changed in a future firmware upgrade).

The Garmin Geko 201 and 301 do not store the waypoint creation time, but
do store trackpoint timestamps in stored and active logs.

Erik




Bart Bailey wrote:

In Message-ID:<dlsqr2$7lt$1@blue.rahul.net> posted on Mon, 21 Nov 2005
15:58:26 +0000 (UTC), Lloyd Lee-Lim wrote: Begin

Another inconsistency with the current 60/76 models: sometimes it will
write the time stamp in AM/PM format, sometimes in 24 hour format. I
have seen it do this on successive waypoints taken only a few minutes
apart.

And a rather disturbing bug: I have seen it write a date that was
one day off. I noticed this in Vienna in the middle of the day during
decent satellite coverage. So if the date/time stamp is important to you,
then you really should double check it.

I reported both of these problems several months ago, but I haven't
seen any indication that they have been fixed. (I have a 60CS.
All the 60/76 models share the same firmware. I don't know if
other current Garmin models have these problems too.)

Thanks for the heads-up, I usually put some other info in the time stamp
area and haven't bothered to check it for accuracy, but will start
confirming before overwriting just for curiosity.