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Sean
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
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I am very new to this. I have been reading on the web but there seems
to be more noise then information. My question is very simple. I would
like to get the BBC feeds. I am in San Diego, CA. Can I do this? If so,
what hardware should I look at?
Thanks for you time!
Sean |
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Jont
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:18 am Post subject:
Re: BBC & North America |
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Sean wrote
| Quote: | I am very new to this. I have been reading on the web but there seems
to be more noise then information. My question is very simple. I would
like to get the BBC feeds. I am in San Diego, CA. Can I do this? If so,
what hardware should I look at?
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Sorry this is mostly negative.
In the UK, we get the domestic BBC service from EuroBird & Astra 2
satellites at 28.x East - which I'm afraid you won't get.
You might get the BBC World service across there - but I don't have any
details in the USA (you can try lyngsat.com).
I guess that BBC America might be on satellite for you to grab across
there - but again, I don't have any details.
BBC news feeds are probably all over the place but is this what you want?
The only positive thing I can tell you is that the BBC seem to be keen on
web-casting - but I think that may be geographically restricted as much as
they possibly can.
Anyone got anything positive?
Jont |
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Sean
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:08 am Post subject:
Re: BBC & North America |
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That is what I was afraid of. I am looking to get BBC 1 thru X. (Would
be nice to get the new Dr. Who). I get BBC America via cable now but
the programing is limited.
Anyone know if you can see the feeds for Sky here? I have a friend in
London that could send a box/card. I would love to get the EPL games
live.
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Amnesiac
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Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
Re: BBC & North America |
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On 28 Nov 2005 20:28:55 -0800, "Sean" <sah.list@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | That is what I was afraid of. I am looking to get BBC 1 thru X. (Would
be nice to get the new Dr. Who). I get BBC America via cable now but
the programing is limited.
Anyone know if you can see the feeds for Sky here? I have a friend in
London that could send a box/card. I would love to get the EPL games
live.
Thanks!
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DEEP BREATH
Sadly the planet is a globe, satellites beams are directional, TV systems are
incompatible and electricity is dangerous. Oh and copyright laws suck :-)
Since you are in San Diego then London is below the horizon by quite a way...
ie... beneath your feet. Add to this that the satellite cluster with the BBC
stations on it are at 28 EAST (of Greenwich nr/in London) and SD is 117 WEST...
so at approx 150 degrees you're approaching the 180 degrees max - even without
factoring in latitude (approx 51N vs 36N) So most of the planet is between you
and the satellite you want. Junior geometry and the right figures will tell you
where and exactly how much. Downloading Google Earth should bring it home.
You also have be taking into account that TV satellites have beams focused on
different bits of the ground beneath them. The Astra 2D satellite the BBC
broadcast from is focused on the UK and the signal strength falls off quite
quickly after as you move away from the beam focus.
Now the bad news: All the TV channels from the EU will broadcast for the PAL
625i @ 50Hz TV system rather the NTSC 525i @ 60Hz TV system in the US, so even
with the signal your TV wouldn't show the picture... I'm not aware of US TVs
having capability to show such signals (some TVs sold in EU will downshift to
525 and show the colours with an RGB connection).
If you were to import a TV you'd need to convert from the 110v @ 60Hz AC the US
uses to provide a 220-240v @ 50Hz signal the TV will like & yes its no
coincidence the mains frequencies match the TV ones. Modern TVs are likely to
use quartz and not mains to get their master clock so its not so much of an
issue but it might screw something up so its probably less trivial than a simple
voltage conversion.
So simply put: from the West coast you are not going to get any BBC TV from
satellites. If you could "see" the bird you wouldn't be in the beam and if you
were in the beam you'd not be able to receive the picture, if you could receive
the picture you'd need an expensive electrical set-up to watch the picture.
The BBC do make a lot of material available over the web, however, because of
copyright issues they also have a list of IP ranges for UK ISPs...if you're not
on that list then some of the material (including I understand the TV) will be
barred. Try going to their website and seeing what's available there.
If you REALLY REALLY want to watch UK TV and you can afford it then you could
set up a PC with a TV card and a Sky Receiver (if you want EPL live) appropriate
subscription and tools to select the channel on the Sky box (you have to have a
sky box because no PC card is sold that can decrypt the Sky signal) . Of course
you'll need a physical address and location to site all this gear.
Then with appropriate software AND a broadband connection which would have to be
DSL (not ADSL or Cable as these won't have a good upload speed) you can stream
the picture to yourself with appropriate s/w in SD to control the remote
receiver and watch the streamed picture.
Simpler but similar would be a set-up to record shows from the EPG and have the
remote PC compress them (with DIVX or similar) and you could then FTP them to
your PC in SD...
Even simpler... if you have a mate you could ask him to get a DVD recorder and
record the shows you want and post you the DVDs. Which is probably breaking some
copyright law somewhere so you shouldn't do this either!
Sorry.
One ray of light... if you're an expat missing British news, gossip and marmite
then a lot of radio stations broadcast on the internet (including some BBC) plus
the BBC archives its shows for a week or so.
When living in Asia I've found a broadband connection and a radio feed helps
keep in touch and stay sane (StarTV's sports channels help too.. you should look
into what's available in US... www.lyngsat.com is a good starting point )
A. |
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Electric Frog
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Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:35 am Post subject:
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"Amnesiac" <amnesiac@myplace.on_the.net> wrote in message
news:apnpo11a7riokbm6iksjavi7dni5pj2kjd@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On 28 Nov 2005 20:28:55 -0800, "Sean" <sah.list@gmail.com> wrote:
That is what I was afraid of. I am looking to get BBC 1 thru X. (Would
be nice to get the new Dr. Who). I get BBC America via cable now but
the programing is limited.
Anyone know if you can see the feeds for Sky here? I have a friend in
London that could send a box/card. I would love to get the EPL games
live.
Thanks!
DEEP BREATH
Sadly the planet is a globe, satellites beams are directional, TV systems
are
incompatible and electricity is dangerous. Oh and copyright laws suck :-)
Since you are in San Diego then London is below the horizon by quite a
way...
ie... beneath your feet. Add to this that the satellite cluster with the
BBC
stations on it are at 28 EAST (of Greenwich nr/in London) and SD is 117
WEST...
so at approx 150 degrees you're approaching the 180 degrees max - even
without
factoring in latitude (approx 51N vs 36N) So most of the planet is between
you
and the satellite you want. Junior geometry and the right figures will
tell you
where and exactly how much. Downloading Google Earth should bring it home.
You also have be taking into account that TV satellites have beams
focused on
different bits of the ground beneath them. The Astra 2D satellite the BBC
broadcast from is focused on the UK and the signal strength falls off
quite
quickly after as you move away from the beam focus.
Now the bad news: All the TV channels from the EU will broadcast for the
PAL
625i @ 50Hz TV system rather the NTSC 525i @ 60Hz TV system in the US, so
even
with the signal your TV wouldn't show the picture... I'm not aware of US
TVs
having capability to show such signals (some TVs sold in EU will downshift
to
525 and show the colours with an RGB connection).
If you were to import a TV you'd need to convert from the 110v @ 60Hz AC
the US
uses to provide a 220-240v @ 50Hz signal the TV will like & yes its no
coincidence the mains frequencies match the TV ones. Modern TVs are likely
to
use quartz and not mains to get their master clock so its not so much of
an
issue but it might screw something up so its probably less trivial than a
simple
voltage conversion.
So simply put: from the West coast you are not going to get any BBC TV
from
satellites. If you could "see" the bird you wouldn't be in the beam and if
you
were in the beam you'd not be able to receive the picture, if you could
receive
the picture you'd need an expensive electrical set-up to watch the
picture.
The BBC do make a lot of material available over the web, however, because
of
copyright issues they also have a list of IP ranges for UK ISPs...if
you're not
on that list then some of the material (including I understand the TV)
will be
barred. Try going to their website and seeing what's available there.
If you REALLY REALLY want to watch UK TV and you can afford it then you
could
set up a PC with a TV card and a Sky Receiver (if you want EPL live)
appropriate
subscription and tools to select the channel on the Sky box (you have to
have a
sky box because no PC card is sold that can decrypt the Sky signal) . Of
course
you'll need a physical address and location to site all this gear.
Then with appropriate software AND a broadband connection which would have
to be
DSL (not ADSL or Cable as these won't have a good upload speed) you can
stream
the picture to yourself with appropriate s/w in SD to control the remote
receiver and watch the streamed picture.
Simpler but similar would be a set-up to record shows from the EPG and
have the
remote PC compress them (with DIVX or similar) and you could then FTP them
to
your PC in SD...
Even simpler... if you have a mate you could ask him to get a DVD recorder
and
record the shows you want and post you the DVDs. Which is probably
breaking some
copyright law somewhere so you shouldn't do this either!
Sorry.
One ray of light... if you're an expat missing British news, gossip and
marmite
then a lot of radio stations broadcast on the internet (including some
BBC) plus
the BBC archives its shows for a week or so.
When living in Asia I've found a broadband connection and a radio feed
helps
keep in touch and stay sane (StarTV's sports channels help too.. you
should look
into what's available in US... www.lyngsat.com is a good starting point )
The Beeb are just starting to talk about putting BBC2 onto the net but |
without a contact in the UK gaining access will be difficult |
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Sean
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Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:54 am Post subject:
Re: BBC & North America |
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Hum. Thanks for the info. The PAL thing is no issue as I converter. (I
have some UK computer gear that I collected that needs PAL). I figured
I could not "see" the main bird. I was hoping that they put it
somewhere else also, like a bird in Asia or such.
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Sean
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Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:55 am Post subject:
Re: BBC & North America |
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I have some colo'd servers in the UK. I can proxy the connect off of
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Michael Chare
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Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
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"Amnesiac" <amnesiac@myplace.on_the.net> wrote in message
news:apnpo11a7riokbm6iksjavi7dni5pj2kjd@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On 28 Nov 2005 20:28:55 -0800, "Sean" <sah.list@gmail.com> wrote:
That is what I was afraid of. I am looking to get BBC 1 thru X. (Would
Now the bad news: All the TV channels from the EU will broadcast for the PAL
625i @ 50Hz TV system rather the NTSC 525i @ 60Hz TV system in the US, so even
with the signal your TV wouldn't show the picture... I'm not aware of US TVs
having capability to show such signals (some TVs sold in EU will downshift to
525 and show the colours with an RGB connection).
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Most European TV (and almost all the TV aimed at the UK) is broadcast in
digital these days.
(PAL is an attribute of analogue transmissions and cvbs.)
All the BBC and ITV channels are FTA (no need for Sky box - except CH4 &5 are
still encrypted)
Typically STBs are connected to TVs using RGB over a Scart cable.
But as you say, the main satellite cluster at 28.2 and 28.5 East will be below
the horizon!
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RED DEVIL
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
Re: BBC & North America |
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On 28 Nov 2005 20:28:55 -0800, "Sean" <sah.list@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | That is what I was afraid of. I am looking to get BBC 1 thru X. (Would
be nice to get the new Dr. Who). I get BBC America via cable now but
the programing is limited.
Anyone know if you can see the feeds for Sky here? I have a friend in
London that could send a box/card. I would love to get the EPL games
live.
Thanks!
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Can't be done!
Your best bet is to try and get a sub with Bev out of Canada.
Canadian TV has quite a lot of British programming including soap
opera Coronation street etc. There is a way you can subscribe through
a company, don't have the link handy but I believe its called CanAm
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apercele79
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that's my problem, living in LOS ANGELES, trying to catch EUROBIRD 1
i spoke to many ppl and they all agree i'm optionless...i give up  |
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