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Larry
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:08 am    Post subject: Question: DishPVR and OTA HD Signals? Reply with quote

I'm a Dish subscriber who is looking into a HD TV. Currently I have a
Dish PVR, and I don't want to give this up - but I also want to get HD
feeds of the local networks.

Is there any way I can get an OTA HD antenna and send it through the PVR
so I have recording capabilities? (I don't think so, but I want to make
sure...)

Thanks in advance!
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SaltiDawg
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Question: DishPVR and OTA HD Signals? Reply with quote

Larry,

Only the 921 and 942 Receivers are able to receive and record OTA
digital signals. Locals are not available in HD from the satellite at
this time.
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Larry
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:24 am    Post subject: Re: Question: DishPVR and OTA HD Signals? Reply with quote

Thanks for this info. The 942 looks like it can do everything I want -
once I can afford it. ;)
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SaltiDawg
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Question: DishPVR and OTA HD Signals? Reply with quote

Larry wrote:

Quote:
Thanks for this info. The 942 looks like it can do everything I want -
once I can afford it. ;)

Give a try to getting Dish to make an exception and allow you, as an
existing customer, to lease the 942. It worked for me.
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Larry
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: Question: DishPVR and OTA HD Signals? Reply with quote

Thanks - I'll call and ask about that.

$700 sure seems like alot since I'd still need an OTA antenna and Dish
wouldn't even be supplying me with the networks in HD.

I read that I still need to subscribe to the Dish Network local channels
if I wanted show information in the on-screen guide. I assume this
means that if I select the UHF/VHF channel in the guide to record a
show, the 942 will use the antenna and record the HD version of the
show, not the Dish-provided SDTV version?

Also, do I need to subscribe to the HD-Pak at $9.99 per month if I don't
want any of those channels? Or is that required with an HD-DVR?

Thanks for your help....
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SaltiDawg
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Question: DishPVR and OTA HD Signals? Reply with quote

Larry wrote:

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Thanks - I'll call and ask about that.


I sent an E-mail to ceo@echostar.com explaining that I was a long time
subscriber that had just bought an HDTV and I was already hooked on
DVR's. I was not prepared to pay $799 to buy a 942 and if I could not
lease a 942 I would reluctantly have to consider leaving Dish. I got an
affirmative E-mail within an hour.

Quote:
...
I read that I still need to subscribe to the Dish Network local channels
if I wanted show information in the on-screen guide. I assume this
means that if I select the UHF/VHF channel in the guide to record a
show, the 942 will use the antenna and record the HD version of the
show, not the Dish-provided SDTV version?

YOU will decide that as the analog and digital channels are different
items. Say you have a Channel 4 (analog) locally. That Channel will
show in the Guide as 004-00. Its digital version will show as 004-01.
Again, to have the Guide info for the locals you must subscribe to the
satellite Local Package.

If you set a timer for 004-00 it will record from the satelite. If you
select 004-01 it will record the digital OTA signal.

Quote:
Also, do I need to subscribe to the HD-Pak at $9.99 per month if I don't
want any of those channels? Or is that required with an HD-DVR?

If you buy the 942 you do not have to subscribe to any HD programming.
If you lease you must AT LEAST subscibe to the HD Package.
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Larry
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:17 am    Post subject: Re: Question: DishPVR and OTA HD Signals? Reply with quote

I'm actually giving some thought to giving up Dish and going to cable -
even if they let me lease the 942 (thought that's a big factor).

Basically, I have 2 requirements - 1) HD locals, and 2) a PVR/DVR. And
it seems cable may be a much better option. For example, one cable
company would have the following charges (I won't name the name, because
I'm not a troll or salesman for anyone):

SETUP: $0 installation, $0 equipment fees
MONTHLY: $39.90 for service (no movie channel premiums) + $9.95 DVR fee
(HD is free, and the std. DVR can be upgraded to an HD DVR at no cost)
for a total of $49.85 (for the first year, then up to ~$65.)

vs. with Dish (who I've been with for ~3 years)

SETUP (going from regular to HD): $699 for HD-PVR + $20-$50 (?) for an
OTA HD antenna
MONTHLY: $31.99 for Top60 + $4.99 DVR = $36.98.

So Dish is about $13/mo cheaper for the first year, then about $30/mo
cheaper. But at $700+ setup, it would take approx. 32 months for it to
be worth it. And with MPEG-4 theoretically coming by then, that's too
far off for me to see the savings. Plus, I wouldn't even be getting the
HD locals from Dish, - I'd be at the mercy of OTA reception.

(And FWIW, DirecTV is somewhere in the middle. Their HD-DVR is $500,
and the monthly costs would be about $59. But I'm in the NY DMA, so
they carry my HD locals on their sat feed from what I've read).


Quote:
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I read that I still need to subscribe to the Dish Network local channels
if I wanted show information in the on-screen guide. I assume this
means that if I select the UHF/VHF channel in the guide to record a
show, the 942 will use the antenna and record the HD version of the
show, not the Dish-provided SDTV version?

YOU will decide that as the analog and digital channels are different
items. Say you have a Channel 4 (analog) locally. That Channel will
show in the Guide as 004-00. Its digital version will show as 004-01.
Again, to have the Guide info for the locals you must subscribe to the
satellite Local Package.

If you set a timer for 004-00 it will record from the satelite. If you
select 004-01 it will record the digital OTA signal.

Thanks for explaining this.

Quote:
Also, do I need to subscribe to the HD-Pak at $9.99 per month if I don't
want any of those channels? Or is that required with an HD-DVR?

If you buy the 942 you do not have to subscribe to any HD programming.
If you lease you must AT LEAST subscibe to the HD Package.

Oh, OK. I was led to believe otherwise from things I've read. You just
made me go back and retype the comparison above, because I had included
the HD Pak. ;)

Thank you again for discussing this with me - I appreciate your
information.
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Louis Satterfield
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: Question: DishPVR and OTA HD Signals? Reply with quote

BobaBird wrote:

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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 14:26:35 GMT, SaltiDawg <none@none.com> wrote:


If you lease you must AT LEAST subscibe to the HD Package.


Leased receivers also require a minimum of the AT60, Dish Latino, or
Great Wall package.

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
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BobaBird
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: Question: DishPVR and OTA HD Signals? Reply with quote

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 14:26:35 GMT, SaltiDawg <none@none.com> wrote:

Quote:
If you lease you must AT LEAST subscibe to the HD Package.

Leased receivers also require a minimum of the AT60, Dish Latino, or
Great Wall package.

--
Charles
Visit the Echostar Knowledge Base
http://ekb.dbstalk.com
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Larry
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: Question: DishPVR and OTA HD Signals? Reply with quote

Isn't AT60 their lowest package? So is that really a "minimum" at all?
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BobaBird
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Question: DishPVR and OTA HD Signals? Reply with quote

"Lowest" can mean the same as minimum but it is possible to buy less
than the entry level package. Some HD subscribers get just the HD Pak
and Voom but since they don't have a core package they also pay the
service access fee for a total of about $20. This is allowed only if
you own the receiver. If you lease you must have at least the lowest
package and the HD Pak.

--
Charles
Visit the Echostar Knowledge Base
http://ekb.dbstalk.com
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jandjav



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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

save your money because the 942 is soon to be outdated, it is beeing replaced with the 622 for 299 starting feb 1. this is an mpeg4 recv, this is what dish is switching to
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