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Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
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Can you get TT5 to route for HGV in the UK? .
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Alan
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
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In message <vzXmf.35442$fk2.26669@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, I
<mapson@hotmail.com> wrote
| Quote: | Can you get TT5 to route for HGV in the UK? .
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No.
HGV drivers and those towing caravans seem to be the biggest critics of
TT5 routing.
TT3 was a lot better in this respect because you could artificially
lower the speed on all types of road so that the routing behaved
differently.
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Alan
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
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Apparently on date Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:27:23 GMT, "I" <mapson@hotmail.com>
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| Quote: | Can you get TT5 to route for HGV in the UK? .
Regards
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Simplistically this is the same as a car nav unit.
So I assume you mean a system that takes account of features like weight limits
on bridges, width restrictions on roads, low bridges, and so forth?
If so, no, TT5 doesn't do that and nor will anything else in the same price
bracket because the cost of the data will be high to start with. |
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Robert Peffers
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject:
Re: HGV route TT5 in UK |
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| Quote: | Apparently on date Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:27:23 GMT, "I" <mapson@hotmail.com
said:
Can you get TT5 to route for HGV in the UK? .
Regards
Simplistically this is the same as a car nav unit.
So I assume you mean a system that takes account of features like weight
limits
on bridges, width restrictions on roads, low bridges, and so forth?
If so, no, TT5 doesn't do that and nor will anything else in the same
price
bracket because the cost of the data will be high to start with.
There is, though, no reason the HGV business could not get together a set of |
POIs that could be exchanged between themselves. They could use a website
with a database of such obstructions. It would then grow and update as the
members reported such things as limits, low bridges and so on. If guys can
do it for speed traps, Err! Safety cameras, there is no bar on HGV users
doing the same thing with the things that would be of help to them.
--
Aefauldlie, (Scots word for Honestly),
Robert, (Auld Bob), Peffers,
Kelty,
Fife,
Scotland, (UK).
Web Site, "The Eck's Files":- http://www.peffers50.freeserve.co.uk |
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Andrew
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:27 pm Post subject:
Re: HGV route TT5 in UK |
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:09:36 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
<bob@peffers50.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | There is, though, no reason the HGV business could not get together a set of
POIs that could be exchanged between themselves. They could use a website
with a database of such obstructions. It would then grow and update as the
members reported such things as limits, low bridges and so on. If guys can
do it for speed traps, Err! Safety cameras, there is no bar on HGV users
doing the same thing with the things that would be of help to them.
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But, AFAIK, you can't plan a route that avoids certain POI's so it
would be of rather limited value.
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Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
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Apparently on date Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:09:36 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
<bob@peffers50.freeserve.co.uk> said:
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Nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:hfkop1dl74oeta1n03a91sri99u01vgqi4@4ax.com...
Apparently on date Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:27:23 GMT, "I" <mapson@hotmail.com
said:
Can you get TT5 to route for HGV in the UK? .
Regards
Simplistically this is the same as a car nav unit.
So I assume you mean a system that takes account of features like weight
limits
on bridges, width restrictions on roads, low bridges, and so forth?
If so, no, TT5 doesn't do that and nor will anything else in the same
price
bracket because the cost of the data will be high to start with.
There is, though, no reason the HGV business could not get together a set of
POIs that could be exchanged between themselves. They could use a website
with a database of such obstructions. It would then grow and update as the
members reported such things as limits, low bridges and so on. If guys can
do it for speed traps, Err! Safety cameras, there is no bar on HGV users
doing the same thing with the things that would be of help to them.
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It's not happening as yet.
Personally I can see all sorts of commercial issues with having devices that
report actual POI / restrictions / road positions and travel history over the
internet. It would be great for improving accuracy of the data, and stuff the
profits of companies that sell this to the people who are the main users of the
data and so who are dependent on those companies.
So when TomTom buy road data from Teleatlas - or whoever they get it from - and
sell it to you and me as part of a package, it would be quite feasible to have
us all send in our travelling data including any POI / restrictions we see fit
to add, and then let us download that data as updated by everyone else.
Teleatlas would go out of business, though, and so would prevent TT from
developing such a service. And so on. There are lots of things that we can
expect in the future, which include live updating of traffic conditions,
weather, it will even be the case that the old "flash yer lights" to warn of a
police speed trap, will become various internet sites that update these things
in real time. Ditto where there's an accident, the pocket PCs of thousands of
cars will report into some data depot that they've all stopped moving and alert
cars that still have an option to turn off the M4 or to slow down because of
the roadblock ahead. Even in car systems that monitor the cars ahead and so
forth, e.g. by bluetooth. |
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Pete
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Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
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If you can't trust TomTom to get the post codes right, along with their
abject failure to respond to emails, personally, I would not trust them to
know where it was safe to take a wheel barrow.
TomTom is great when it works, (which it does most of the time) but if you
have an issue, their policy seems to be "we got your cash and we don't want
to know." I am no great fan of Microsoft, but when they got Autoroute 2006
wrong, they, apparently, have offered a full refund.
TomTom should change their name to something like Stetson, as they are more
like cowboys than Indians.
But then, that is just my experience of the way they operate.
"I" <mapson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Can you get TT5 to route for HGV in the UK? .
Regards
I
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Alan Morris
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Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:11 am Post subject:
Re: HGV route TT5 in UK |
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| Quote: | Apparently on date Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:27:23 GMT, "I" <mapson@hotmail.com
said:
Can you get TT5 to route for HGV in the UK? .
Regards
Simplistically this is the same as a car nav unit.
So I assume you mean a system that takes account of features like weight
limits
on bridges, width restrictions on roads, low bridges, and so forth?
If so, no, TT5 doesn't do that and nor will anything else in the same
price
bracket because the cost of the data will be high to start with.
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I understand that the Garmin 26x0 range take into weight limits etc. They
produce a different route depending on this setting. I have a 2610 and
confirm the setting is available, but I've not used it.
A motorhome list has discussed this, but the problem is that if MHs use this
setting they get routed around towns which is not what the users want.
Alan |
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Robert Peffers
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:01 am Post subject:
Re: HGV route TT5 in UK |
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<Nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Apparently on date Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:09:36 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
bob@peffers50.freeserve.co.uk> said:
Nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:hfkop1dl74oeta1n03a91sri99u01vgqi4@4ax.com...
Apparently on date Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:27:23 GMT, "I"
mapson@hotmail.com
said:
Can you get TT5 to route for HGV in the UK? .
Regards
Simplistically this is the same as a car nav unit.
So I assume you mean a system that takes account of features like weight
limits
on bridges, width restrictions on roads, low bridges, and so forth?
If so, no, TT5 doesn't do that and nor will anything else in the same
price
bracket because the cost of the data will be high to start with.
There is, though, no reason the HGV business could not get together a set
of
POIs that could be exchanged between themselves. They could use a website
with a database of such obstructions. It would then grow and update as the
members reported such things as limits, low bridges and so on. If guys can
do it for speed traps, Err! Safety cameras, there is no bar on HGV users
doing the same thing with the things that would be of help to them.
It's not happening as yet.
Personally I can see all sorts of commercial issues with having devices
that
report actual POI / restrictions / road positions and travel history over
the
internet. It would be great for improving accuracy of the data, and stuff
the
profits of companies that sell this to the people who are the main users
of the
data and so who are dependent on those companies.
There would be nothing to stop HGV people doing their own thing for, far as |
I know, no-one has, so far, taken out a patent on road blocks, road repairs,
low bridges, traffic bottlenecks and what have you.
| Quote: |
So when TomTom buy road data from Teleatlas - or whoever they get it
from - and
sell it to you and me as part of a package, it would be quite feasible to
have
us all send in our travelling data including any POI / restrictions we see
fit
to add, and then let us download that data as updated by everyone else.
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Fine, but there is no reason we could not do the same for ourselves. Just
ask the lads on this group who give away the safety camera POIs.
| Quote: |
Teleatlas would go out of business, though, and so would prevent TT from
developing such a service. And so on. There are lots of things that we can
expect in the future, which include live updating of traffic conditions,
weather, it will even be the case that the old "flash yer lights" to warn
of a
police speed trap, will become various internet sites that update these
things
in real time.
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We have much of these things now in TomTom extra. O.k., so this depends on a
mobile phone and a bluetooth connection between phone and TomTom.
| Quote: | Ditto where there's an accident, the pocket PCs of thousands of
cars will report into some data depot that they've all stopped moving and
alert
cars that still have an option to turn off the M4 or to slow down because
of
the roadblock ahead. Even in car systems that monitor the cars ahead and
so
forth, e.g. by bluetooth.
If you hadn't noticed many radio stations already do this and the car radio |
will turn down the volume of the station you are listening to and give you
the traffic information.
--
Aefauldlie, (Scots word for Honestly),
Robert, (Auld Bob), Peffers,
Kelty,
Fife,
Scotland, (UK).
Web Site, "The Eck's Files":- http://www.peffers50.freeserve.co.uk |
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Robert Peffers
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:08 am Post subject:
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" Pete" <me@nomorespam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | If you can't trust TomTom to get the post codes right, along with their
abject failure to respond to emails, personally, I would not trust them to
know where it was safe to take a wheel barrow.
In the first place the info does not come from TomTom.
TomTom is great when it works, (which it does most of the time) but if you
have an issue, their policy seems to be "we got your cash and we don't
want to know." I am no great fan of Microsoft, but when they got Autoroute
2006 wrong, they, apparently, have offered a full refund.
It seems to depend on how you make contact with TomTom as some people report |
no problems with their helpdesk.
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TomTom should change their name to something like Stetson, as they are
more like cowboys than Indians.
Can't say I have any problems with them. In fact I had to put my vehicle in |
for its yearly checkover, (not MOT), and thus needed someone to give me a
run home. I gave my TomTom to my mate in case he got lost as he did not know
the area where I was taking the motorhome. He went out afterwards and bought
a TomTom of his own.
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But then, that is just my experience of the way they operate.
Glad you said that as there are far too many who think their experiance is |
the same as everyone else's.
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"I" <mapson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Can you get TT5 to route for HGV in the UK? .
Regards
I
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