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Adrian
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:45 pm    Post subject: 256MB Garmin Data Card Reply with quote

Is there anybody else supplying an alternative to the Garmin 256MB Data Card?

Has anybody managed to build a DIY version that is compatible?
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Jack Erbes
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: 256MB Garmin Data Card Reply with quote

Adrian wrote:

Quote:
Is there anybody else supplying an alternative to the Garmin 256MB Data Card?

Has anybody managed to build a DIY version that is compatible?

There are data cards on the market that were not made for or sold by
Garmin and those are priced cheaper than Garmins. eBay is one place to
find them:

http://search.ebay.com/Garmin-Data-Card

The actual data card and memory media is probably only made in one or
two factories so there is a good chance that the non-Garmin data cards
are from the same source and as good as the ones from Garmin.

You can also find the data card programmers on eBay and and they are
again cheaper than from Garmin.

Jack

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Peter
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 256MB Garmin Data Card Reply with quote

Jack Erbes wrote:

Quote:
Adrian wrote:

Is there anybody else supplying an alternative to the Garmin 256MB
Data Card?

Has anybody managed to build a DIY version that is compatible?


There are data cards on the market that were not made for or sold by
Garmin and those are priced cheaper than Garmins. eBay is one place to
find them:

http://search.ebay.com/Garmin-Data-Card

Gilsson makes a 32 MB Garmin-compatible card, but I haven't seen any
alternative suppliers for the larger capacity ones.
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Robert Elsinga =8-)
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 256MB Garmin Data Card Reply with quote

On 1 Feb 2005 03:45:26 -0800, adriankendrick@gmail.com (Adrian) wrote:

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Is there anybody else supplying an alternative to the Garmin 256MB Data Card?

www.gps.nl has several sizes, which are cheaper and have a longer
waranty period. sales (at) gps.nl can answer mails in english or
german (beside dutch ofcourse) without problems AFAIK.

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Jack Erbes
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:08 pm    Post subject: Re: 256MB Garmin Data Card Reply with quote

Peter wrote:
Quote:
Jack Erbes wrote:

Adrian wrote:

Is there anybody else supplying an alternative to the Garmin 256MB
Data Card?

Has anybody managed to build a DIY version that is compatible?



There are data cards on the market that were not made for or sold by
Garmin and those are priced cheaper than Garmins. eBay is one place
to find them:

http://search.ebay.com/Garmin-Data-Card


Gilsson makes a 32 MB Garmin-compatible card, but I haven't seen any
alternative suppliers for the larger capacity ones.


I think that was true until recently, here is a seller has the 128 MB cards:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=58048&item=5748547526

but maybe 256 MB non-Garmin cards aren't on the street yet. I don't see
any there on eBay now. But the prices are better on eBay.

Proprietary chart chips like those are an irritation to me when you look
at the availability and pricing on the more commonly used media like SD.
To me it is just another reason to not buy that kind of GPS hardware.

Jack

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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 256MB Garmin Data Card Reply with quote

Thw 276C which is fairly recent uses their own memory cards ... milking
the customer is one thing that comes in to mind :(

Matt
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Peter
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 256MB Garmin Data Card Reply with quote

web1000@shaw.ca wrote:

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Thw 276C which is fairly recent uses their own memory cards ... milking
the customer is one thing that comes in to mind :(

Anyone who sees a need to buy many additional cards beyond the included
128 MB one should be looking at other products. But I'm sure there were
customers with programmed BlueChart memory cards from older models who
were happy to see a modern unit with enhanced functions that would let
them continue to use that map data.
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Peter
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 256MB Garmin Data Card Reply with quote

Jack Erbes wrote:

Quote:
Peter wrote:

Jack Erbes wrote:

Adrian wrote:

Is there anybody else supplying an alternative to the Garmin 256MB
Data Card?

Has anybody managed to build a DIY version that is compatible?

There are data cards on the market that were not made for or sold by
Garmin and those are priced cheaper than Garmins. eBay is one place
to find them:

http://search.ebay.com/Garmin-Data-Card
Gilsson makes a 32 MB Garmin-compatible card, but I haven't seen any
alternative suppliers for the larger capacity ones.

I think that was true until recently, here is a seller has the 128 MB
cards:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=58048&item=5748547526
but maybe 256 MB non-Garmin cards aren't on the street yet. I don't see
any there on eBay now.

Gilsson has been promising the 64 & 128 MB versions as available "soon"
for awhile - and those 128 Mb ones may well be from the same source.
I haven't seen any indications of an alternate for the 256 MB size.
Quote:

Proprietary chart chips like those are an irritation to me when you look
at the availability and pricing on the more commonly used media like SD.
To me it is just another reason to not buy that kind of GPS hardware.

Of course when Garmin first designed their memory cards and associated
devices there were no established industry standard ones. Their latest
designs, like the 26x0 series and iQue's do use standard memory cards.
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Albert Nurick
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:52 am    Post subject: Re: 256MB Garmin Data Card Reply with quote

Peter <prathman@comcast.net> wrote in
news:vPidnRY9r7iPdWLcRVn-tQ@comcast.com:

Quote:
Of course when Garmin first designed their memory cards and associated
devices there were no established industry standard ones.

IIRC, CompactFlash preceeded Garmin's first GPS with memory cards. The
motive for a proprietary card is simple profiteering. Whether or not that
dissuades you from buying a product that uses proprietary cards is a
personal decision.

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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:07 am    Post subject: Re: 256MB Garmin Data Card Reply with quote

The 276C has ZERO build in memory for maps. Even former customers may
be happy to use the gigabytes of CF cards they have laying around
anyways instead of buying garmins stuff.

Dont get me wrong I like garmins products but in recent years they have
started to milk the customers for all they are worth.

Matt
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Peter
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: 256MB Garmin Data Card Reply with quote

web1000@shaw.ca wrote:

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The 276C has ZERO build in memory for maps. Even former customers may
be happy to use the gigabytes of CF cards they have laying around
anyways instead of buying garmins stuff.

Gigabytes of empty CF cards would have little relevance to someone who
has lots of the old programmed BlueChart cards that have all the
maps he needs to navigate. The value is not in the hardware but the
cost of replacing that map data.

Seems to me that when Garmin is designing really new products these days
(like the 26x0, c3x0, iQue's) they are using industry standard memory.
When they came out with upgraded models in series that were started
many years ago (SP III, 276c, and others) they frequently continued to
support their own data cards. That's not optimal for new buyers, but
may well avoid complaints from existing customers.

In any event, Garmin is hardly keeping it a secret as to which memory
devices are needed for which product lines so it shouldn't come as a
surprise to anyone.
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peter
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: 256MB Garmin Data Card Reply with quote

Albert wrote:
Quote:
IIRC, CompactFlash preceeded Garmin's first GPS with memory cards.
The
motive for a proprietary card is simple profiteering. Whether or not
that
dissuades you from buying a product that uses proprietary cards is a
personal decision.

To the best of my knowledge, Garmin had a GPS with a data card in
mid-93 and SanDisk came out with the first Compact Flash card in
late-94. But even if the dates were a little different, at the time
that Garmin designed their first model with a data card it wasn't at
all clear what, if any, standard versions would eventually be
successful in the marketplace. Hindsight is always much easier.
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Ted Lindgreen
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: 256MB Garmin Data Card Reply with quote

In article <p8-dnVoDjYcpqJ3fRVn-qA@comcast.com>,
Peter <prathman@comcast.net> wrote:
.....
Quote:
Gigabytes of empty CF cards would have little relevance to someone who
has lots of the old programmed BlueChart cards that have all the
maps he needs to navigate. The value is not in the hardware but the
cost of replacing that map data.

BlueChart data must be updated regularly, like all charts used for
serious navigation (including paper charts). I do not think it is
wise to hang onto old programmed BlueChart cards when buying a new
chartplotter.

I also have a Garmin GPS with the old cartridges, but when replacing
it, I'd certainly go for a product with industry standard memory.

As MapSource BlueChart data is nowadays (also) provided on CD's to
be downloaded to rewritable memory, I think it's doubtfull whether
still buying the old preprogrammed BlueChart cartridges is wise, but
basing a decision for new equipment on the old preprogrammed cartridge
technology seems plain stupid to me.

-- ted
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Jack Erbes
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: 256MB Garmin Data Card Reply with quote

web1000@shaw.ca wrote:
Quote:
Thw 276C which is fairly recent uses their own memory cards ... milking
the customer is one thing that comes in to mind :(

That is the data card we have been talking about in this thread. You
don't have to buy them from Garmin but I suppose there are many that
might not know that.

Jack


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Ted Lindgreen
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 256MB Garmin Data Card Reply with quote

In article <r8ednTwnYdlxTp3fRVn-jA@adelphia.com>,
Jack Erbes <jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote:
....
Quote:
That is the data card we have been talking about in this thread. You
don't have to buy them from Garmin but I suppose there are many that
might not know that.

Indeed, I certainly did not know. I have just investigated again,
but can not find any other manufacturer of data cards which are
compatible with the Garmin Data Cards larger than 32 MB. Gilsson
did announce some larger cards but have not delivered, sofar.

So, please enlighten us, where else can one buy these cards?

Regards,
-- ted
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