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Ed Hauptman
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 3:02 pm Post subject:
Garmin are disposable items |
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Bought a Garmin Etrex couple of years ago... Screen freezes up and faults
intermittently. Took it to Garmin "Repairer" in Melbourne Australia.
Charges $90 per hour to "look at it"
Deal is - Garmin dealers don't actually repair any faults except software
fault. This is a hardware fault so is: Garmin will supply a refurbished
unit = $200. ( cheaper to buy new on EBay)
So -- I said yes.
Several weeks later - go to pick up the unit. I ask to test it . Salesman
thinks this is a good idea. ( has had a few refurbished units Dead on
Arrival....
Test it: Takes 15 minutes to log onto a satellite! : I then find the
refurbished unit is American so does not have the Australian maps in ROM
that my locally bought unit has.
THEN THE SCREEN DIES!
I could cry..
I tell the salesman to return me my faulty Garmin. It works better than the
refurbished one!.
I decide to buy Magellan
Moral:
Garmin GPS's are disposable items.
Once out warranty they are paperweights as Garmin cannot repair them.
Always test the refurbished unit . It probably won't work for very long. (
has 3 months warrenty - I wonder why!)
Spend a little more and buy Magellan |
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Meindert Sprang
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 6:52 pm Post subject:
Re: Garmin are disposable items |
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"Ed Hauptman" <bids9159@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Moral:
Garmin GPS's are disposable items.
Once out warranty they are paperweights as Garmin cannot repair them.
Always test the refurbished unit . It probably won't work for very long. (
has 3 months warrenty - I wonder why!)
Spend a little more and buy Magellan
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Moral: every electronic gadget below $200 is a disposable item. Everyone in
the sales chain is simply making too little money on one unit to spend more
than 10 minutes on a defect.
We do it too. Our NMEA multiplexers start at 219 euros. The cost price of a
PC board inside it, is 20 euros. My hourly rate is 85 euros. How much time
do you think I spend on a defective board?
Meindert |
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Graham W
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 6:58 pm Post subject:
Re: Garmin are disposable items |
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Ed Hauptman wrote:
| Quote: | Bought a Garmin Etrex couple of years ago... Screen freezes up and faults
intermittently. Took it to Garmin "Repairer" in Melbourne Australia.
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Who is the Melbourne repairer out of interest?
| Quote: | Charges $90 per hour to "look at it"
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Eeeks.
Email Garmin US and ask them about their flat rate repair service and
why it's not available here?
| Quote: | Deal is - Garmin dealers don't actually repair any faults except software
fault. This is a hardware fault so is: Garmin will supply a refurbished
unit = $200. ( cheaper to buy new on EBay)
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Garmin US will repair any unit for a flat rate, whether it's a scratched
screen or a nasty accident with a steam roller. As long as you've got
most of the unit, they'll "fix" it for the same flat rate.
| Quote: | So -- I said yes.
Several weeks later - go to pick up the unit. I ask to test it . Salesman
thinks this is a good idea. ( has had a few refurbished units Dead on
Arrival....
Test it: Takes 15 minutes to log onto a satellite! : I then find the
refurbished unit is American so does not have the Australian maps in ROM
that my locally bought unit has.
THEN THE SCREEN DIES!
I could cry..
I tell the salesman to return me my faulty Garmin. It works better than the
refurbished one!.
I decide to buy Magellan
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| Quote: | Moral:
Garmin GPS's are disposable items.
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GPS's, Garmin and otherwise, are about the same size and a similar price
to an upmarket mobile phone. They'r generally much more robust and
certainly outlive the average mobile phones 18 month to 2 year lifetime.
| Quote: | Once out warranty they are paperweights as Garmin cannot repair them.
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In Australia.
In the US consistent reports here are that the out of warranty repairs
are often free, otherwise to the fixed price schedule.
| Quote: | Always test the refurbished unit . It probably won't work for very long. (
has 3 months warrenty - I wonder why!)
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Absolutely.
| Quote: | Spend a little more and buy Magellan
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My experience with a warranty claim on a 6 week old GPS12XL in Australia
in 1998 was quite appalling. After ringing at one to two week intervals
for three months, I contacted Garmin US to complain. The Australian
distributor then sent me a refurbished earlier model which could not be
upgraded to what I had originally bought.
Eventually the dealer, out of sheer embarrassment, gave me a new unit
off the shelf and took the argument to the distributor themselves.
I had two friends who had similar tales around the same time with a 12XL
and a GPSII+ in Australia.
Yet the message I've seen in this newsgroup consistently since then,
over 6 years, is that Garmin in the US has an excellent reputation for
warranty and out of warranty repairs.
It's hard to get around the conclusion the local distributor is letting
the side down.
When you look at Garmin's Australian maps and compare them with
Magellan's, that pretty much seals the issue for me. I sadly recommend
Magellans to friends, even though I'd rather have a Garmin if I were in
North America. |
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Joop van der Velden
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 8:15 pm Post subject:
Re: Garmin are disposable items |
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Ed Hauptman wrote:
| Quote: | Test it: Takes 15 minutes to log onto a satellite! : I then find the
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That is not uncommon for a GPS receiver that has travelled some 1000's km
since it was last turned on.
| Quote: | refurbished unit is American so does not have the Australian maps in ROM
that my locally bought unit has.
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That's not correct...
| Quote: | THEN THE SCREEN DIES!
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That's not correct either. You are sure the battery's were charged?
--
Joop van der Velden
pe1dna@amsat.org |
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Jay
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 10:10 pm Post subject:
Re: Garmin are disposable items |
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"Ed Hauptman" <bids9159@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:5Xfsd.58518$K7.34783@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
I had excellent results with GarminUSA flat rate repair on a GPS V.
Resoldered a loose crystal on the board or somesuch. |
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Karl Pollak
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 11:21 pm Post subject:
Re: Garmin are disposable items |
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"Ed Hauptman" <bids9159@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
| Quote: | Bought a Garmin Etrex couple of years ago... Screen freezes up and faults
intermittently. ....
Deal is - Garmin dealers don't actually repair any faults except software
fault. This is a hardware fault so
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I had a similar problem with my eTrex, was advised here to reload the
firmware, did so, had no probs since then.
Good advice, thanks group.
| Quote: | Garmin GPS's are disposable items.
Once out warranty they are paperweights as Garmin cannot repair them.
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Garmin has been remarkable in the way they stand behind their products. In
or out of warranty. Very few corporations today care as much about their
customer satisfaction as Garmin does.
I've had my eTrex for over 4 years, use it often and apart from the above
mentioned, have had no problems. For the money I paid for it (abt.$180CAD)
I figure I got a steal.
As opposed to some other users, I am satisfied with knowing which area I am
in, down to 10m accuracy. I do not need to know which side of the road I
am driving on. I have two supplementary visual sensors connected to the CPU
in my head to figure out such details.
| Quote: | Always test the refurbished unit . It probably won't work for very long.
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What's wrong with the above statement, Ed?
If you know that a refurbished unit will not work very long (and I agree
with you on that point), why even consider buying it? There must have been
a good reason why the original owner no longer wants it.
If he does not want it, why would you?
--
Greetings from Lotusland |
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Mike
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Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:20 am Post subject:
Re: Garmin are disposable items |
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Dont' go out and waste your money on a Magellan.. Their maps suck and
resulolution also sucks. Just get a better Garmin unit like a Vista or GPS
76CS.
"Graham W" <zebedee@alphalink.commercial.au> wrote in message
news:31du3fF38vm9pU1@individual.net...
| Quote: | Ed Hauptman wrote:
Bought a Garmin Etrex couple of years ago... Screen freezes up and faults
intermittently. Took it to Garmin "Repairer" in Melbourne Australia.
Who is the Melbourne repairer out of interest?
Charges $90 per hour to "look at it"
Eeeks.
Email Garmin US and ask them about their flat rate repair service and why
it's not available here?
Deal is - Garmin dealers don't actually repair any faults except
software
fault. This is a hardware fault so is: Garmin will supply a refurbished
unit = $200. ( cheaper to buy new on EBay)
Garmin US will repair any unit for a flat rate, whether it's a scratched
screen or a nasty accident with a steam roller. As long as you've got most
of the unit, they'll "fix" it for the same flat rate.
So -- I said yes.
Several weeks later - go to pick up the unit. I ask to test it . Salesman
thinks this is a good idea. ( has had a few refurbished units Dead on
Arrival....
Test it: Takes 15 minutes to log onto a satellite! : I then find the
refurbished unit is American so does not have the Australian maps in ROM
that my locally bought unit has.
THEN THE SCREEN DIES!
I could cry..
I tell the salesman to return me my faulty Garmin. It works better than
the
refurbished one!.
I decide to buy Magellan
Moral:
Garmin GPS's are disposable items.
GPS's, Garmin and otherwise, are about the same size and a similar price
to an upmarket mobile phone. They'r generally much more robust and
certainly outlive the average mobile phones 18 month to 2 year lifetime.
Once out warranty they are paperweights as Garmin cannot repair them.
In Australia.
In the US consistent reports here are that the out of warranty repairs are
often free, otherwise to the fixed price schedule.
Always test the refurbished unit . It probably won't work for very long.
(
has 3 months warrenty - I wonder why!)
Absolutely.
Spend a little more and buy Magellan
My experience with a warranty claim on a 6 week old GPS12XL in Australia
in 1998 was quite appalling. After ringing at one to two week intervals
for three months, I contacted Garmin US to complain. The Australian
distributor then sent me a refurbished earlier model which could not be
upgraded to what I had originally bought.
Eventually the dealer, out of sheer embarrassment, gave me a new unit off
the shelf and took the argument to the distributor themselves.
I had two friends who had similar tales around the same time with a 12XL
and a GPSII+ in Australia.
Yet the message I've seen in this newsgroup consistently since then, over
6 years, is that Garmin in the US has an excellent reputation for warranty
and out of warranty repairs.
It's hard to get around the conclusion the local distributor is letting
the side down.
When you look at Garmin's Australian maps and compare them with
Magellan's, that pretty much seals the issue for me. I sadly recommend
Magellans to friends, even though I'd rather have a Garmin if I were in
North America. |
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Stan Gosnell
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Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:27 am Post subject:
Re: Garmin are disposable items |
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"Ed Hauptman" <bids9159@bigpond.net.au> wrote in
news:5Xfsd.58518$K7.34783@news-server.bigpond.net.au:
| Quote: | Garmin GPS's are disposable items.
Once out warranty they are paperweights as Garmin cannot repair them.
Always test the refurbished unit . It probably won't work for very
long. ( has 3 months warrenty - I wonder why!)
Spend a little more and buy Magellan
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What makes you believe that Magellan is any different? *All* consumer
electronic items are disposable, even TVs, etc. It costs more to repair
them than to buy a new one, no matter the brand.
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Regards,
Stan |
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Ed Hauptman
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Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:43 pm Post subject:
Re: Garmin are disposable items |
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Yes the screen flickers and scrambles. Probably a dry solder joint or a dry
electrolytic capacitor.
Here Gamins are $500 - $800.
If the board costs only $20 as one of the group claimed- hey there is some
profit there!
On the other- a USB GPS module can be had for $50.
Gamin's quality control is not what it ought to be either for its
manufactured units or it supposedly refurbished units.
"Joop van der Velden" <pe1dna@amsat.org> wrote in message
news:VA.00000528.01ca382e@amsat.org...
| Quote: | Ed Hauptman wrote:
Test it: Takes 15 minutes to log onto a satellite! : I then find the
That is not uncommon for a GPS receiver that has travelled some 1000's km
since it was last turned on.
refurbished unit is American so does not have the Australian maps in ROM
that my locally bought unit has.
That's not correct...
THEN THE SCREEN DIES!
That's not correct either. You are sure the battery's were charged?
--
Joop van der Velden
pe1dna@amsat.org
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Ed Hauptman
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Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:49 pm Post subject:
Re: Garmin are disposable items |
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Yeah....My Etrex Legend with Australian base maps costs US$400 here.
The refurbished unit was not one that someone did not want- it was a faulty
unit some other sucker had exchanged for another refurbished unit.
Garmin cracks and replaces the sealed case - after they fiddle with the
guts.
But not very well...
Their quality control sucks.
And they don't have the decency to exchange like units with similar base
maps.
Ed
"Karl Pollak" <guser@nospam.org> wrote in message
news:41b1f6ae.3679434@news.pacificcoast.net...
| Quote: | x-no-archive: yes
"Ed Hauptman" <bids9159@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
Bought a Garmin Etrex couple of years ago... Screen freezes up and faults
intermittently. ....
Deal is - Garmin dealers don't actually repair any faults except
software
fault. This is a hardware fault so
I had a similar problem with my eTrex, was advised here to reload the
firmware, did so, had no probs since then.
Good advice, thanks group.
Garmin GPS's are disposable items.
Once out warranty they are paperweights as Garmin cannot repair them.
Garmin has been remarkable in the way they stand behind their products. In
or out of warranty. Very few corporations today care as much about their
customer satisfaction as Garmin does.
I've had my eTrex for over 4 years, use it often and apart from the above
mentioned, have had no problems. For the money I paid for it
(abt.$180CAD)
I figure I got a steal.
As opposed to some other users, I am satisfied with knowing which area I
am
in, down to 10m accuracy. I do not need to know which side of the road I
am driving on. I have two supplementary visual sensors connected to the
CPU
in my head to figure out such details.
Always test the refurbished unit . It probably won't work for very long.
What's wrong with the above statement, Ed?
If you know that a refurbished unit will not work very long (and I agree
with you on that point), why even consider buying it? There must have
been
a good reason why the original owner no longer wants it.
If he does not want it, why would you?
--
Greetings from Lotusland |
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Ed Hauptman
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Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:00 pm Post subject:
Re: Garmin are disposable items |
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Thanks
There is only one Garmin Distributor/ repairer in Victoria and that is GME.
They can only "repair" software.
What really pissed me off was the base map of the refurbished unit was not
Australian so even if it did work- I would have had to buy Mapsource - for
another $200 to get any use out of it.
"Graham W" <zebedee@alphalink.commercial.au> wrote in message
news:31du3fF38vm9pU1@individual.net...
| Quote: | Ed Hauptman wrote:
Bought a Garmin Etrex couple of years ago... Screen freezes up and
faults
intermittently. Took it to Garmin "Repairer" in Melbourne Australia.
Who is the Melbourne repairer out of interest?
Charges $90 per hour to "look at it"
Eeeks.
Email Garmin US and ask them about their flat rate repair service and
why it's not available here?
Deal is - Garmin dealers don't actually repair any faults except
software
fault. This is a hardware fault so is: Garmin will supply a
refurbished
unit = $200. ( cheaper to buy new on EBay)
Garmin US will repair any unit for a flat rate, whether it's a scratched
screen or a nasty accident with a steam roller. As long as you've got
most of the unit, they'll "fix" it for the same flat rate.
So -- I said yes.
Several weeks later - go to pick up the unit. I ask to test it .
Salesman
thinks this is a good idea. ( has had a few refurbished units Dead on
Arrival....
Test it: Takes 15 minutes to log onto a satellite! : I then find the
refurbished unit is American so does not have the Australian maps in ROM
that my locally bought unit has.
THEN THE SCREEN DIES!
I could cry..
I tell the salesman to return me my faulty Garmin. It works better than
the
refurbished one!.
I decide to buy Magellan
Moral:
Garmin GPS's are disposable items.
GPS's, Garmin and otherwise, are about the same size and a similar price
to an upmarket mobile phone. They'r generally much more robust and
certainly outlive the average mobile phones 18 month to 2 year lifetime.
Once out warranty they are paperweights as Garmin cannot repair them.
In Australia.
In the US consistent reports here are that the out of warranty repairs
are often free, otherwise to the fixed price schedule.
Always test the refurbished unit . It probably won't work for very long.
(
has 3 months warrenty - I wonder why!)
Absolutely.
Spend a little more and buy Magellan
My experience with a warranty claim on a 6 week old GPS12XL in Australia
in 1998 was quite appalling. After ringing at one to two week intervals
for three months, I contacted Garmin US to complain. The Australian
distributor then sent me a refurbished earlier model which could not be
upgraded to what I had originally bought.
Eventually the dealer, out of sheer embarrassment, gave me a new unit
off the shelf and took the argument to the distributor themselves.
I had two friends who had similar tales around the same time with a 12XL
and a GPSII+ in Australia.
Yet the message I've seen in this newsgroup consistently since then,
over 6 years, is that Garmin in the US has an excellent reputation for
warranty and out of warranty repairs.
It's hard to get around the conclusion the local distributor is letting
the side down.
When you look at Garmin's Australian maps and compare them with
Magellan's, that pretty much seals the issue for me. I sadly recommend
Magellans to friends, even though I'd rather have a Garmin if I were in
North America. |
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Darrel Goheen
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Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Garmin are disposable items |
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"Ed Hauptman" <bids9159@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:gJBsd.59863$K7.8992@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
| Quote: | Yeah....My Etrex Legend with Australian base maps costs US$400 here.
The refurbished unit was not one that someone did not want- it was a
faulty
unit some other sucker had exchanged for another refurbished unit.
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How could you know this?
| Quote: | Garmin cracks and replaces the sealed case - after they fiddle with
the
guts.
But not very well...
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Really, we have sold hundreds of reman Garmin units and we have had less
than 10 defectives.
| Quote: | Their quality control sucks.
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I'm not sure where you are getting you info. but it is a very bad source
of info.
--
Darrel Goheen
GPS@tvnav.com
http://www.tvnav.com |
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Darrel Goheen
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Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:21 pm Post subject:
Re: Garmin are disposable items |
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Did you contact Garmin about this? You should have received a unit back
with the same basemap you had.
--
Darrel Goheen
GPS@tvnav.com
http://www.tvnav.com
"Ed Hauptman" <bids9159@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:0TBsd.59883$K7.46374@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
| Quote: | Thanks
There is only one Garmin Distributor/ repairer in Victoria and that is
GME.
They can only "repair" software.
What really pissed me off was the base map of the refurbished unit was not
Australian so even if it did work- I would have had to buy Mapsource -
for
another $200 to get any use out of it.
"Graham W" <zebedee@alphalink.commercial.au> wrote in message
news:31du3fF38vm9pU1@individual.net...
Ed Hauptman wrote:
Bought a Garmin Etrex couple of years ago... Screen freezes up and
faults
intermittently. Took it to Garmin "Repairer" in Melbourne Australia.
Who is the Melbourne repairer out of interest?
Charges $90 per hour to "look at it"
Eeeks.
Email Garmin US and ask them about their flat rate repair service and
why it's not available here?
Deal is - Garmin dealers don't actually repair any faults except
software
fault. This is a hardware fault so is: Garmin will supply a
refurbished
unit = $200. ( cheaper to buy new on EBay)
Garmin US will repair any unit for a flat rate, whether it's a scratched
screen or a nasty accident with a steam roller. As long as you've got
most of the unit, they'll "fix" it for the same flat rate.
So -- I said yes.
Several weeks later - go to pick up the unit. I ask to test it .
Salesman
thinks this is a good idea. ( has had a few refurbished units Dead on
Arrival....
Test it: Takes 15 minutes to log onto a satellite! : I then find the
refurbished unit is American so does not have the Australian maps in
ROM
that my locally bought unit has.
THEN THE SCREEN DIES!
I could cry..
I tell the salesman to return me my faulty Garmin. It works better than
the
refurbished one!.
I decide to buy Magellan
Moral:
Garmin GPS's are disposable items.
GPS's, Garmin and otherwise, are about the same size and a similar price
to an upmarket mobile phone. They'r generally much more robust and
certainly outlive the average mobile phones 18 month to 2 year lifetime.
Once out warranty they are paperweights as Garmin cannot repair them.
In Australia.
In the US consistent reports here are that the out of warranty repairs
are often free, otherwise to the fixed price schedule.
Always test the refurbished unit . It probably won't work for very
long.
(
has 3 months warrenty - I wonder why!)
Absolutely.
Spend a little more and buy Magellan
My experience with a warranty claim on a 6 week old GPS12XL in Australia
in 1998 was quite appalling. After ringing at one to two week intervals
for three months, I contacted Garmin US to complain. The Australian
distributor then sent me a refurbished earlier model which could not be
upgraded to what I had originally bought.
Eventually the dealer, out of sheer embarrassment, gave me a new unit
off the shelf and took the argument to the distributor themselves.
I had two friends who had similar tales around the same time with a 12XL
and a GPSII+ in Australia.
Yet the message I've seen in this newsgroup consistently since then,
over 6 years, is that Garmin in the US has an excellent reputation for
warranty and out of warranty repairs.
It's hard to get around the conclusion the local distributor is letting
the side down.
When you look at Garmin's Australian maps and compare them with
Magellan's, that pretty much seals the issue for me. I sadly recommend
Magellans to friends, even though I'd rather have a Garmin if I were in
North America.
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Non Toxic
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:16 am Post subject:
Re: Garmin are disposable items |
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I have checked the details with the 'dealer' involved and things may not be
as they seem ....
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"Ed Hauptman" <bids9159@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:gJBsd.59863$K7.8992@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
| Quote: | Yeah....My Etrex Legend with Australian base maps costs US$400 here.
The refurbished unit was not one that someone did not want- it was a
faulty
unit some other sucker had exchanged for another refurbished unit.
|
According to the 'dealer' and there was nothing wrong with the exchange unit
you were offered. It continued to work flawlessly after you left the store.
| Quote: | Garmin cracks and replaces the sealed case - after they fiddle with the
guts.
But not very well...
Their quality control sucks.
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The failure rate of exchange units from Garmin is very low. They are
thoroughly tested before being shipped. This is why you had to take the unit
outside and allow it to relocate - because it had been fully tested in
Taiwan before being shipped.
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And they don't have the decency to exchange like units with similar base
maps.
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Garmin only ships Australian basemapped units to the Australian distributor.
The unit you were offered DID have an Australian base map. According to the
'dealer' the problem was with the way the unit was setup. The branch manager
attemped to assist but at that point you preferred to demand your old unit
back.
| Quote: | Ed
"Karl Pollak" <guser@nospam.org> wrote in message
news:41b1f6ae.3679434@news.pacificcoast.net...
x-no-archive: yes
"Ed Hauptman" <bids9159@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
Bought a Garmin Etrex couple of years ago... Screen freezes up and
faults
intermittently. ....
Deal is - Garmin dealers don't actually repair any faults except
software
fault. This is a hardware fault so
I had a similar problem with my eTrex, was advised here to reload the
firmware, did so, had no probs since then.
Good advice, thanks group.
Garmin GPS's are disposable items.
Once out warranty they are paperweights as Garmin cannot repair them.
Garmin has been remarkable in the way they stand behind their products.
In
or out of warranty. Very few corporations today care as much about their
customer satisfaction as Garmin does.
I've had my eTrex for over 4 years, use it often and apart from the above
mentioned, have had no problems. For the money I paid for it
(abt.$180CAD)
I figure I got a steal.
As opposed to some other users, I am satisfied with knowing which area I
am
in, down to 10m accuracy. I do not need to know which side of the road I
am driving on. I have two supplementary visual sensors connected to the
CPU
in my head to figure out such details.
Always test the refurbished unit . It probably won't work for very long.
What's wrong with the above statement, Ed?
If you know that a refurbished unit will not work very long (and I agree
with you on that point), why even consider buying it? There must have
been
a good reason why the original owner no longer wants it.
If he does not want it, why would you?
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Greetings from Lotusland
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Wayne R.
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:35 pm Post subject:
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As you've described things here, it doesn't sound like Garmin was
actually involved at all!
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 10:43:33 GMT, "Ed Hauptman"
<bids9159@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
| Quote: | Gamin's quality control is not what it ought to be either for its
manufactured units or it supposedly refurbished units. |
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