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George Butch
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peeps
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Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:17 am Post subject:
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its basically the same thing Clinton proposed in one of his state of the union address'
but now since George is saying it they are all against it..
If you go back and read some transcripts of some of the house and senate
democrats back in the mid to late 90s they were all pumping it up..
its quite hilarious..
poor democrats cant keep from shootin themselves in the foot every time..
"George Butch" <me@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:cvjiap0lhf@news4.newsguy.com...
Democrap's Social Security Ponzi scheme:
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/05/socialsecurity.html
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JimK
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Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:17 am Post subject:
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 04:31:17 GMT, "peeps" <peeps@peeps.net> wrote:
| Quote: | its basically the same thing Clinton proposed in one of his state of the union address'
but now since George is saying it they are all against it..
If you go back and read some transcripts of some of the house and senate
democrats back in the mid to late 90s they were all pumping it up..
its quite hilarious..
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In fact, the proposals were very different. Clinton did not propose
encouraging workers to divert payroll taxes into private accounts or
cutting guaranteed benefits. Instead, Clinton's proposal to invest
some trust fund assets in the stock market was a specific attempt to
avoid "drastic cuts in [guaranteed] benefits" -- like those Bush will
likely propose -- by allowing the trust fund to earn a slightly higher
rate of return in the stock market. Clinton also rejected proposals
that would "drain resources from Social Security," thus avoiding
trillions of dollars in transition costs.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200502070006
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Sam
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Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:57 pm Post subject:
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another loosely written article with out facts and little actual truth
(snip)
n Helvering v. Davis (1937), the court held that Social Security was not
an insurance program, saying, "The proceeds of both (employee and
employer) taxes are to be paid into the Treasury like internal-revenue
taxes generally, and are not earmarked in any way."
{ isn't this the way insurgence works ????????? }
(snip)
In a later decision, Flemming v. Nestor (1960), the court said, "To
engraft upon Social Security system a concept of ‘accrued property
rights' would deprive it of the flexibility and boldness in adjustment
to ever-changing conditions which it demands ..." That flexibility and
boldness mean Congress can constitutionally cut benefits, raise
retirement age, raise Social Security taxes and do anything it wishes,
including eliminating payments
{ this is after 1953 when the republicans took the money out of a
special fund and put it in the general fund so they steal from it
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Sam
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Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:58 pm Post subject:
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turn off the radio and read the news
peeps wrote:
| Quote: | its basically the same thing Clinton proposed in one of his state of the
union address'
but now since George is saying it they are all against it..
If you go back and read some transcripts of some of the house and senate
democrats back in the mid to late 90s they were all pumping it up..
its quite hilarious..
poor democrats cant keep from shootin themselves in the foot every time..
"George Butch" <me@127.0.0.1 <mailto:me@127.0.0.1>> wrote in message
news:cvjiap0lhf@news4.newsguy.com...
Democrap's Social Security Ponzi scheme:
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/05/socialsecurity.html
Unlike the liberal Web sites, you don't have to give up your privacy
to view the article |
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Sam
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Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:02 pm Post subject:
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if these guys were to ever read the facts instead of listing to drug jockeys
radio shows they might actually learn the truth
JimK wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 04:31:17 GMT, "peeps" <peeps@peeps.net> wrote:
its basically the same thing Clinton proposed in one of his state of the union address'
but now since George is saying it they are all against it..
If you go back and read some transcripts of some of the house and senate
democrats back in the mid to late 90s they were all pumping it up..
its quite hilarious..
In fact, the proposals were very different. Clinton did not propose
encouraging workers to divert payroll taxes into private accounts or
cutting guaranteed benefits. Instead, Clinton's proposal to invest
some trust fund assets in the stock market was a specific attempt to
avoid "drastic cuts in [guaranteed] benefits" -- like those Bush will
likely propose -- by allowing the trust fund to earn a slightly higher
rate of return in the stock market. Clinton also rejected proposals
that would "drain resources from Social Security," thus avoiding
trillions of dollars in transition costs.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200502070006
poor democrats cant keep from shootin themselves in the foot every time..
"George Butch" <me@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:cvjiap0lhf@news4.newsguy.com...
Democrap's Social Security Ponzi scheme:
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/05/socialsecurity.html
Unlike the liberal Web sites, you don't have to give up your privacy to view the article
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George Butch
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Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:11 am Post subject:
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Agreed! Turn off Air America and get the facts from www.anncoulter.org
"Sam" <sam@samsneed.net> wrote in message
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Sam
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Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:28 am Post subject:
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augh now,, ever-body knows all you ever look at is the pictures :-)
George Butch wrote:
| Quote: | Agreed! Turn off Air America and get the facts from www.anncoulter.org
"Sam" <sam@samsneed.net> wrote in message
news:111rcp5g6mv628f@corp.supernews.com...
turn off the radio and read the news
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