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Ginks
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:24 am Post subject:
Moved from Starband to DirecWay and won't be fullfilling con |
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With Starband not doing much in terms of either moving everyone or
supplying a prompt dial-up solution (although dial-up is exactly what I
wanted to move away from since I need something closer to broadband for
business) I will be moving to DirecWay - http://www.direcway.com/. I
also called my credit card company and had them block any further
charges that Starband may attempt to make when they get their new
satellite up or what ever the plan is, and preformed a chargeback for
the payment I made only days before the outage.
WildBlue - http://www.wildblue.com/ is planning on a release date of
early 2005 which will be around the time Starband should have AI-8 up.
I'm personally recommending all Starband users get WildBlue -
http://www.wildblue.com/ when they do come out of beta testing. Unlike
Starband, WildBlue - http://www.wildblue.com/ actually owns their own
satellites that they build and launch. They have already launched one
(read more about this here:
http://www.wildblue.com/press/2004/071904.asp ) and have it in
position, and are building another to launch currently.
Few highlights from an interview with the WildBlue -
http://www.wildblue.com/ CEO in CED Magazine at:
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0904/09e.htm
- The service will sell in the high $40s per month to start with"
(Starband kind of charges different people different prices depending
on your contract and what not. I don't know of anyone getting it for
"high $40s per month" though.)
- " think we'll start with two or three different tiers of service,
probably a 500 kbps service, a 1 Mbps service and maybe a 1.5 Mbps
service. In the upstream, probably something like 256 kbps. That seems
to be a sweet spot particularly for cable." (1.5Mbps is very enticing,
but not as much as 256kbps upstream! With Starband you can't even get
56kbps upstream half the time, WTF!@#$???)
- "Although WildBlue could compete with cable for customers, its
technology, in an interesting twist, is partly based on DOCSIS" (This
means they're cheaper to build, and they can sell them a lot cheaper)
Read the full interview at:
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0904/09e.htm
Useful Links:
How It Works: http://www.wildblue.com/how/
Press Releases: http://www.wildblue.com/press/
FAQs: http://www.wildblue.com/faq/
About WildBlue: http://www.wildblue.com/about/ |
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no_one
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:18 pm Post subject:
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please keep on posting updates on what starband does regarding this.
how many months did you have left with them anyway?
what length of contract did you sign with them?
did you have a 48x or a 360?
i honestly want to know what they do in situations like this,
espeically since you signed a contract with them, and they have broken
it themselves, as a result of these events.
infact everytime they call you in a few months regarding this, keep on
throwing back in their face "24/7 service," and see what they have to
say about it.
this should prove interesting.
i have been looking forward to wildblue, but honestly, they had better
be prepared to show examples, hold up to their service, and offer some
kind of money back program if i am not satisfied, or some kind of
testing program.
after being with starband, and having seen their service, not to
mention other's suffering with direcway, i will have to be convinced
that there is such a thing as a good satellite internet provider.
i am sending off a letter to the head of the consumer service
complaints/suggestions division of SBC in Texas tomorrow, to hopefully
get information on petitioning to have the DSL availability for my
area extended out to where myself and several other thousand people
that cannot get dsl or cable where we live at.
most of the people around in my area that fall under the same fate of
myself have satellite television due to the lack of cable, not to
mention have dial-up, as most people do not know about the satellite
internet situation, or it is too pricey for them.
| Quote: | With Starband not doing much in terms of either moving everyone or
supplying a prompt dial-up solution (although dial-up is exactly what I
wanted to move away from since I need something closer to broadband for
business) I will be moving to DirecWay - http://www.direcway.com/. I
also called my credit card company and had them block any further
charges that Starband may attempt to make when they get their new
satellite up or what ever the plan is, and preformed a chargeback for
the payment I made only days before the outage.
WildBlue - http://www.wildblue.com/ is planning on a release date of
early 2005 which will be around the time Starband should have AI-8 up.
I'm personally recommending all Starband users get WildBlue -
http://www.wildblue.com/ when they do come out of beta testing. Unlike
Starband, WildBlue - http://www.wildblue.com/ actually owns their own
satellites that they build and launch. They have already launched one
(read more about this here:
http://www.wildblue.com/press/2004/071904.asp ) and have it in
position, and are building another to launch currently.
Few highlights from an interview with the WildBlue -
http://www.wildblue.com/ CEO in CED Magazine at:
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0904/09e.htm
- The service will sell in the high $40s per month to start with"
(Starband kind of charges different people different prices depending
on your contract and what not. I don't know of anyone getting it for
"high $40s per month" though.)
- " think we'll start with two or three different tiers of service,
probably a 500 kbps service, a 1 Mbps service and maybe a 1.5 Mbps
service. In the upstream, probably something like 256 kbps. That seems
to be a sweet spot particularly for cable." (1.5Mbps is very enticing,
but not as much as 256kbps upstream! With Starband you can't even get
56kbps upstream half the time, WTF!@#$???)
- "Although WildBlue could compete with cable for customers, its
technology, in an interesting twist, is partly based on DOCSIS" (This
means they're cheaper to build, and they can sell them a lot cheaper)
Read the full interview at:
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0904/09e.htm
Useful Links:
How It Works: http://www.wildblue.com/how/
Press Releases: http://www.wildblue.com/press/
FAQs: http://www.wildblue.com/faq/
About WildBlue: http://www.wildblue.com/about/ |
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BericD
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:13 pm Post subject:
Re: Moved from Starband to DirecWay and won't be fullfilling |
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I'd been looking at the small-print and found this in the Service
Agreement:
2.5 Disclaimer of Warranties-The Service
YOU EXPRESSLY AGREE THAT YOUR USE OF THE SERVICE IS AT YOUR SOLE RISK.
THE SERVICE IS PROVIDED ON AN "AS IS" AND "AS AVAILABLE" BASIS.
STARBAND EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS AND
IMPLIED, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY,
FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE OR NON-INFRINGEMENT. STARBAND MAKES
NO WARRANTY THAT THE SERVICE WILL MEET YOUR REQUIREMENTS, OR THAT THE
SERVICE WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED, TIMELY, SECURE, OR ERROR FREE; NOR DOES
STARBAND MAKE ANY WARRANTY AS TO THE RESULTS THAT MAY BE OBTAINED FROM
THE SERVICE OR AS TO THE ACCURACY OR RELIABILITY OF ANY INFORMATION
OBTAINED THROUGH THE SERVICE.
It looks like they are technically covered due to the clause intended
to cover 'bad weather' - which kind of sucks.
I'm at the point where it would be cheaper to finish my contract (3
more months) than to bail and pay the penalty, unless I can get out of
it earlier. I'm lucky in that DSL is now available to my house and I
was going to bail from starband at the end of my 1 year contract
anyway...
no_one <no_one@no_where.com> wrote in message news:<3ettq09tauh05lu82ecgv3f5idfe1gkorl@4ax.com>...
| Quote: | please keep on posting updates on what starband does regarding this.
how many months did you have left with them anyway?
what length of contract did you sign with them?
did you have a 48x or a 360?
i honestly want to know what they do in situations like this,
espeically since you signed a contract with them, and they have broken
it themselves, as a result of these events.
infact everytime they call you in a few months regarding this, keep on
throwing back in their face "24/7 service," and see what they have to
say about it.
this should prove interesting.
i have been looking forward to wildblue, but honestly, they had better
be prepared to show examples, hold up to their service, and offer some
kind of money back program if i am not satisfied, or some kind of
testing program.
after being with starband, and having seen their service, not to
mention other's suffering with direcway, i will have to be convinced
that there is such a thing as a good satellite internet provider.
i am sending off a letter to the head of the consumer service
complaints/suggestions division of SBC in Texas tomorrow, to hopefully
get information on petitioning to have the DSL availability for my
area extended out to where myself and several other thousand people
that cannot get dsl or cable where we live at.
most of the people around in my area that fall under the same fate of
myself have satellite television due to the lack of cable, not to
mention have dial-up, as most people do not know about the satellite
internet situation, or it is too pricey for them.
With Starband not doing much in terms of either moving everyone or
supplying a prompt dial-up solution (although dial-up is exactly what I
wanted to move away from since I need something closer to broadband for
business) I will be moving to DirecWay - http://www.direcway.com/. I
also called my credit card company and had them block any further
charges that Starband may attempt to make when they get their new
satellite up or what ever the plan is, and preformed a chargeback for
the payment I made only days before the outage.
WildBlue - http://www.wildblue.com/ is planning on a release date of
early 2005 which will be around the time Starband should have AI-8 up.
I'm personally recommending all Starband users get WildBlue -
http://www.wildblue.com/ when they do come out of beta testing. Unlike
Starband, WildBlue - http://www.wildblue.com/ actually owns their own
satellites that they build and launch. They have already launched one
(read more about this here:
http://www.wildblue.com/press/2004/071904.asp ) and have it in
position, and are building another to launch currently.
Few highlights from an interview with the WildBlue -
http://www.wildblue.com/ CEO in CED Magazine at:
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0904/09e.htm
- The service will sell in the high $40s per month to start with"
(Starband kind of charges different people different prices depending
on your contract and what not. I don't know of anyone getting it for
"high $40s per month" though.)
- " think we'll start with two or three different tiers of service,
probably a 500 kbps service, a 1 Mbps service and maybe a 1.5 Mbps
service. In the upstream, probably something like 256 kbps. That seems
to be a sweet spot particularly for cable." (1.5Mbps is very enticing,
but not as much as 256kbps upstream! With Starband you can't even get
56kbps upstream half the time, WTF!@#$???)
- "Although WildBlue could compete with cable for customers, its
technology, in an interesting twist, is partly based on DOCSIS" (This
means they're cheaper to build, and they can sell them a lot cheaper)
Read the full interview at:
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0904/09e.htm
Useful Links:
How It Works: http://www.wildblue.com/how/
Press Releases: http://www.wildblue.com/press/
FAQs: http://www.wildblue.com/faq/
About WildBlue: http://www.wildblue.com/about/ |
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BP
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:55 am Post subject:
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Look at almost any service provider for anything, there is almost ALWAYS a
clause that covers them for non-performance or inability to provide service.
Hope DW works out well for you, and WildBlue, if they ever get off the
ground.
Actually, WildBlue will NOT be starting service on a satellite they own,
they too will be renting space. The satellite is owned by Telesat Canada.
I believe WildBlue does have a satellite of their own under construction.
Owning the satellite doesn't make it any less prone to events like what
happened on IA-7.
It's a man-made object, parts can fail.
"Ginks" <pr0d1gy@mail.ru> wrote in message
news:1101968686.853230.26280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | With Starband not doing much in terms of either moving everyone or
supplying a prompt dial-up solution (although dial-up is exactly what I
wanted to move away from since I need something closer to broadband for
business) I will be moving to DirecWay - http://www.direcway.com/. I
also called my credit card company and had them block any further
charges that Starband may attempt to make when they get their new
satellite up or what ever the plan is, and preformed a chargeback for
the payment I made only days before the outage.
WildBlue - http://www.wildblue.com/ is planning on a release date of
early 2005 which will be around the time Starband should have AI-8 up.
I'm personally recommending all Starband users get WildBlue -
http://www.wildblue.com/ when they do come out of beta testing. Unlike
Starband, WildBlue - http://www.wildblue.com/ actually owns their own
satellites that they build and launch. They have already launched one
(read more about this here:
http://www.wildblue.com/press/2004/071904.asp ) and have it in
position, and are building another to launch currently.
Few highlights from an interview with the WildBlue -
http://www.wildblue.com/ CEO in CED Magazine at:
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0904/09e.htm
- The service will sell in the high $40s per month to start with"
(Starband kind of charges different people different prices depending
on your contract and what not. I don't know of anyone getting it for
"high $40s per month" though.)
- " think we'll start with two or three different tiers of service,
probably a 500 kbps service, a 1 Mbps service and maybe a 1.5 Mbps
service. In the upstream, probably something like 256 kbps. That seems
to be a sweet spot particularly for cable." (1.5Mbps is very enticing,
but not as much as 256kbps upstream! With Starband you can't even get
56kbps upstream half the time, WTF!@#$???)
- "Although WildBlue could compete with cable for customers, its
technology, in an interesting twist, is partly based on DOCSIS" (This
means they're cheaper to build, and they can sell them a lot cheaper)
Read the full interview at:
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0904/09e.htm
Useful Links:
How It Works: http://www.wildblue.com/how/
Press Releases: http://www.wildblue.com/press/
FAQs: http://www.wildblue.com/faq/
About WildBlue: http://www.wildblue.com/about/
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Douglas Cofty
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:10 am Post subject:
Re: Moved from Starband to DirecWay and won't be fullfilling |
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Good Luck but i can tell you you are going to be in the same boat.. Direcway
service is the same only in a different box. Read the Direcway newsgroup and
see the horror stories.. But to each his own.
"Ginks" <pr0d1gy@mail.ru> wrote in message
news:1101968686.853230.26280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | With Starband not doing much in terms of either moving everyone or
supplying a prompt dial-up solution (although dial-up is exactly what I
wanted to move away from since I need something closer to broadband for
business) I will be moving to DirecWay - http://www.direcway.com/. I
also called my credit card company and had them block any further
charges that Starband may attempt to make when they get their new
satellite up or what ever the plan is, and preformed a chargeback for
the payment I made only days before the outage.
WildBlue - http://www.wildblue.com/ is planning on a release date of
early 2005 which will be around the time Starband should have AI-8 up.
I'm personally recommending all Starband users get WildBlue -
http://www.wildblue.com/ when they do come out of beta testing. Unlike
Starband, WildBlue - http://www.wildblue.com/ actually owns their own
satellites that they build and launch. They have already launched one
(read more about this here:
http://www.wildblue.com/press/2004/071904.asp ) and have it in
position, and are building another to launch currently.
Few highlights from an interview with the WildBlue -
http://www.wildblue.com/ CEO in CED Magazine at:
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0904/09e.htm
- The service will sell in the high $40s per month to start with"
(Starband kind of charges different people different prices depending
on your contract and what not. I don't know of anyone getting it for
"high $40s per month" though.)
- " think we'll start with two or three different tiers of service,
probably a 500 kbps service, a 1 Mbps service and maybe a 1.5 Mbps
service. In the upstream, probably something like 256 kbps. That seems
to be a sweet spot particularly for cable." (1.5Mbps is very enticing,
but not as much as 256kbps upstream! With Starband you can't even get
56kbps upstream half the time, WTF!@#$???)
- "Although WildBlue could compete with cable for customers, its
technology, in an interesting twist, is partly based on DOCSIS" (This
means they're cheaper to build, and they can sell them a lot cheaper)
Read the full interview at:
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0904/09e.htm
Useful Links:
How It Works: http://www.wildblue.com/how/
Press Releases: http://www.wildblue.com/press/
FAQs: http://www.wildblue.com/faq/
About WildBlue: http://www.wildblue.com/about/
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Osama Bush Laden
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:18 am Post subject:
Re: Moved from Starband to DirecWay and won't be fullfilling |
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"Ginks" <pr0d1gy@mail.ru> wrote in message
news:1101968686.853230.26280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | With Starband not doing much in terms of either moving everyone or
supplying a prompt dial-up solution (although dial-up is exactly what I
wanted to move away from since I need something closer to broadband for
business) I will be moving to DirecWay - http://www.direcway.com/.
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Ohhhhhh, you be a cummin in ya pantses in NO times atall wit dat change,
Gink! I jus wish ya could still gets a 1-ways system! Jus nuttin like dial
returns and Free Axess Policy to makes my customer happier dan a jaybirds!
Tiny Earle
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Tiny Earle
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:23 am Post subject:
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"Ginks" <pr0d1gy@mail.ru> wrote in message
news:1101968686.853230.26280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | With Starband not doing much in terms of either moving everyone or
supplying a prompt dial-up solution (although dial-up is exactly what I
wanted to move away from since I need something closer to broadband for
business) I will be moving to DirecWay - http://www.direcway.com/.
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Ohhhhhh, you be a cummin in ya pantses in NO times atall wit dat change,
Gink! I jus wish ya could still gets a 1-ways system! Jus nuttin like dial
returns and Free Axess Policy to makes my customer happier dan a jaybirds!
Tiny Earle
http://liarway.tripod.com/ |
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peeps
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:19 am Post subject:
Re: Moved from Starband to DirecWay and won't be fullfilling |
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jad starband for 8 or 9 months, never got
above 20kbps upload speed..
Called and called, same ole lies, some ole promises..
upgraded back to dialup.. never looked back.
They sent me letter in mail month ago, wanting to buy
my equipment back for $100 (i think) which I paid over
$600 for..
what a crock.
They should be called Scamband.
"no_one" <no_one@no_where.com> wrote in message
news:3ettq09tauh05lu82ecgv3f5idfe1gkorl@4ax.com...
| Quote: | please keep on posting updates on what starband does regarding this.
how many months did you have left with them anyway?
what length of contract did you sign with them?
did you have a 48x or a 360?
i honestly want to know what they do in situations like this,
espeically since you signed a contract with them, and they have broken
it themselves, as a result of these events.
infact everytime they call you in a few months regarding this, keep on
throwing back in their face "24/7 service," and see what they have to
say about it.
this should prove interesting.
i have been looking forward to wildblue, but honestly, they had better
be prepared to show examples, hold up to their service, and offer some
kind of money back program if i am not satisfied, or some kind of
testing program.
after being with starband, and having seen their service, not to
mention other's suffering with direcway, i will have to be convinced
that there is such a thing as a good satellite internet provider.
i am sending off a letter to the head of the consumer service
complaints/suggestions division of SBC in Texas tomorrow, to hopefully
get information on petitioning to have the DSL availability for my
area extended out to where myself and several other thousand people
that cannot get dsl or cable where we live at.
most of the people around in my area that fall under the same fate of
myself have satellite television due to the lack of cable, not to
mention have dial-up, as most people do not know about the satellite
internet situation, or it is too pricey for them.
With Starband not doing much in terms of either moving everyone or
supplying a prompt dial-up solution (although dial-up is exactly what I
wanted to move away from since I need something closer to broadband for
business) I will be moving to DirecWay - http://www.direcway.com/. I
also called my credit card company and had them block any further
charges that Starband may attempt to make when they get their new
satellite up or what ever the plan is, and preformed a chargeback for
the payment I made only days before the outage.
WildBlue - http://www.wildblue.com/ is planning on a release date of
early 2005 which will be around the time Starband should have AI-8 up.
I'm personally recommending all Starband users get WildBlue -
http://www.wildblue.com/ when they do come out of beta testing. Unlike
Starband, WildBlue - http://www.wildblue.com/ actually owns their own
satellites that they build and launch. They have already launched one
(read more about this here:
http://www.wildblue.com/press/2004/071904.asp ) and have it in
position, and are building another to launch currently.
Few highlights from an interview with the WildBlue -
http://www.wildblue.com/ CEO in CED Magazine at:
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0904/09e.htm
- The service will sell in the high $40s per month to start with"
(Starband kind of charges different people different prices depending
on your contract and what not. I don't know of anyone getting it for
"high $40s per month" though.)
- " think we'll start with two or three different tiers of service,
probably a 500 kbps service, a 1 Mbps service and maybe a 1.5 Mbps
service. In the upstream, probably something like 256 kbps. That seems
to be a sweet spot particularly for cable." (1.5Mbps is very enticing,
but not as much as 256kbps upstream! With Starband you can't even get
56kbps upstream half the time, WTF!@#$???)
- "Although WildBlue could compete with cable for customers, its
technology, in an interesting twist, is partly based on DOCSIS" (This
means they're cheaper to build, and they can sell them a lot cheaper)
Read the full interview at:
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0904/09e.htm
Useful Links:
How It Works: http://www.wildblue.com/how/
Press Releases: http://www.wildblue.com/press/
FAQs: http://www.wildblue.com/faq/
About WildBlue: http://www.wildblue.com/about/
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peeps
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:21 am Post subject:
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I wouldnt hold your breath about wildblue..
They have pushed back their launch date at least 3 times.
They were advertising 2003 at one point, thats how bad
it is.. besides, it will have the same horrible latency issues
from what I hear.. (worse than should be..) but
they cant get any worse in the customer service dept. than
starband.. so thats a plus.
"Ginks" <pr0d1gy@mail.ru> wrote in message
news:1101968686.853230.26280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | With Starband not doing much in terms of either moving everyone or
supplying a prompt dial-up solution (although dial-up is exactly what I
wanted to move away from since I need something closer to broadband for
business) I will be moving to DirecWay - http://www.direcway.com/. I
also called my credit card company and had them block any further
charges that Starband may attempt to make when they get their new
satellite up or what ever the plan is, and preformed a chargeback for
the payment I made only days before the outage.
WildBlue - http://www.wildblue.com/ is planning on a release date of
early 2005 which will be around the time Starband should have AI-8 up.
I'm personally recommending all Starband users get WildBlue -
http://www.wildblue.com/ when they do come out of beta testing. Unlike
Starband, WildBlue - http://www.wildblue.com/ actually owns their own
satellites that they build and launch. They have already launched one
(read more about this here:
http://www.wildblue.com/press/2004/071904.asp ) and have it in
position, and are building another to launch currently.
Few highlights from an interview with the WildBlue -
http://www.wildblue.com/ CEO in CED Magazine at:
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0904/09e.htm
- The service will sell in the high $40s per month to start with"
(Starband kind of charges different people different prices depending
on your contract and what not. I don't know of anyone getting it for
"high $40s per month" though.)
- " think we'll start with two or three different tiers of service,
probably a 500 kbps service, a 1 Mbps service and maybe a 1.5 Mbps
service. In the upstream, probably something like 256 kbps. That seems
to be a sweet spot particularly for cable." (1.5Mbps is very enticing,
but not as much as 256kbps upstream! With Starband you can't even get
56kbps upstream half the time, WTF!@#$???)
- "Although WildBlue could compete with cable for customers, its
technology, in an interesting twist, is partly based on DOCSIS" (This
means they're cheaper to build, and they can sell them a lot cheaper)
Read the full interview at:
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0904/09e.htm
Useful Links:
How It Works: http://www.wildblue.com/how/
Press Releases: http://www.wildblue.com/press/
FAQs: http://www.wildblue.com/faq/
About WildBlue: http://www.wildblue.com/about/
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Osama Bin Kerry
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:47 pm Post subject:
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SB shipped two kinds of 360s, republican and democrat.
Was yours a dark blue color?
"peeps" <peeps@peeps.net> wrote in message news:ZzTrd.182222$HA.102555@attbi_s01...
| Quote: | jad starband for 8 or 9 months, never got
above 20kbps upload speed..
Called and called, same ole lies, some ole promises..
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Sam
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:21 pm Post subject:
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I think mine was red amd blue it never worked and
didn't want too :-)
Osama Bin Kerry wrote:
| Quote: | SB shipped two kinds of 360s, republican and democrat.
Was yours a dark blue color?
"peeps" <peeps@peeps.net <mailto:peeps@peeps.net>> wrote in message
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jad starband for 8 or 9 months, never got
above 20kbps upload speed..
Called and called, same ole lies, some ole promises..
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Jeff
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:52 am Post subject:
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"Douglas Cofty" <d.cofty@starband.net> wrote in message news:<nFKrd.44$qv.23@fe25.usenetserver.com>...
| Quote: | Good Luck but i can tell you you are going to be in the same boat.. Direcway
service is the same only in a different box. Read the Direcway newsgroup and
see the horror stories.. But to each his own.
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Positives from reading the n.g. seem to be that Direcway performs a
little faster on the business accounts, but the negaive seems to be
the annoyance of FAP... no small limitation certainly.
I should have my direcway system setup next week or early the
following week -- I ordered it because after waiting for 1 1/2 hours
on hold, starband had said that a repoint would be required and there
are no starband installers left in my area, so the repoint would have
cost me ~$300 and probably would have put everyone on the same
satellite, so half the speeds as before. Now it appears we may have a
different ballgame now that Intellasat figured out how to partially
recover the IA7 satellite... if more than one cluster can be recovered
and if there aren't continuing problems with it... so many decisions,
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Jeff
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:52 am Post subject:
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"Ginks" <pr0d1gy@mail.ru> wrote in message news:<1101968686.853230.26280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>...
| Quote: | With Starband not doing much in terms of either moving everyone or
supplying a prompt dial-up solution (although dial-up is exactly what I
wanted to move away from since I need something closer to broadband for
business) I will be moving to DirecWay - http://www.direcway.com/.
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Is your system setup yet? How does it compare to your starband system? |
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Jon M Lastfogel
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Tue Dec 07, 2004 12:18 pm Post subject:
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starband is rip off and second one not rip off and third is wild blue
suppose be early but they changed date need three more month it second
quater will be around june 2005 that all bullshit
"no_one" <no_one@no_where.com> wrote in message
news:3ettq09tauh05lu82ecgv3f5idfe1gkorl@4ax.com...
| Quote: | please keep on posting updates on what starband does regarding this.
how many months did you have left with them anyway?
what length of contract did you sign with them?
did you have a 48x or a 360?
i honestly want to know what they do in situations like this,
espeically since you signed a contract with them, and they have broken
it themselves, as a result of these events.
infact everytime they call you in a few months regarding this, keep on
throwing back in their face "24/7 service," and see what they have to
say about it.
this should prove interesting.
i have been looking forward to wildblue, but honestly, they had better
be prepared to show examples, hold up to their service, and offer some
kind of money back program if i am not satisfied, or some kind of
testing program.
after being with starband, and having seen their service, not to
mention other's suffering with direcway, i will have to be convinced
that there is such a thing as a good satellite internet provider.
i am sending off a letter to the head of the consumer service
complaints/suggestions division of SBC in Texas tomorrow, to hopefully
get information on petitioning to have the DSL availability for my
area extended out to where myself and several other thousand people
that cannot get dsl or cable where we live at.
most of the people around in my area that fall under the same fate of
myself have satellite television due to the lack of cable, not to
mention have dial-up, as most people do not know about the satellite
internet situation, or it is too pricey for them.
With Starband not doing much in terms of either moving everyone or
supplying a prompt dial-up solution (although dial-up is exactly what I
wanted to move away from since I need something closer to broadband for
business) I will be moving to DirecWay - http://www.direcway.com/. I
also called my credit card company and had them block any further
charges that Starband may attempt to make when they get their new
satellite up or what ever the plan is, and preformed a chargeback for
the payment I made only days before the outage.
WildBlue - http://www.wildblue.com/ is planning on a release date of
early 2005 which will be around the time Starband should have AI-8 up.
I'm personally recommending all Starband users get WildBlue -
http://www.wildblue.com/ when they do come out of beta testing. Unlike
Starband, WildBlue - http://www.wildblue.com/ actually owns their own
satellites that they build and launch. They have already launched one
(read more about this here:
http://www.wildblue.com/press/2004/071904.asp ) and have it in
position, and are building another to launch currently.
Few highlights from an interview with the WildBlue -
http://www.wildblue.com/ CEO in CED Magazine at:
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0904/09e.htm
- The service will sell in the high $40s per month to start with"
(Starband kind of charges different people different prices depending
on your contract and what not. I don't know of anyone getting it for
"high $40s per month" though.)
- " think we'll start with two or three different tiers of service,
probably a 500 kbps service, a 1 Mbps service and maybe a 1.5 Mbps
service. In the upstream, probably something like 256 kbps. That seems
to be a sweet spot particularly for cable." (1.5Mbps is very enticing,
but not as much as 256kbps upstream! With Starband you can't even get
56kbps upstream half the time, WTF!@#$???)
- "Although WildBlue could compete with cable for customers, its
technology, in an interesting twist, is partly based on DOCSIS" (This
means they're cheaper to build, and they can sell them a lot cheaper)
Read the full interview at:
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0904/09e.htm
Useful Links:
How It Works: http://www.wildblue.com/how/
Press Releases: http://www.wildblue.com/press/
FAQs: http://www.wildblue.com/faq/
About WildBlue: http://www.wildblue.com/about/
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