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Randy S.
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:08 am Post subject:
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Jeff Rife wrote:
| Quote: | Jack Zwick (jackzwick@yahoo.com) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:
No, it is not. Digital is the only requirement...not HD.
technically yes, but actually no, as everyone I know of that goes
digital, also goes to HD.
This goes to show that you know very little about this subject.
In Washington, DC (#8 market in the country), there are 12 digital TV
channels on line. Five of them are SD-only, and only one of the other
7 shows any HDTV that isn't sourced from the network.
This is pretty much typical across the country, although some areas don't
have any passthrough of network HD...they have nothing but SD.
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Locally it seems pretty typical that a broadcaster will have 2
subchannels, one of which is SD, the other is either HD all the time, or
HD in the evening, and SD the rest of the time.
Randy S. |
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Jack Zwick
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:08 am Post subject:
Re: New HD channels WILL require new receivers. |
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In article <43160b10$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net>,
"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 08/31/2005 2:48 PM, Jack Zwick pondered briefly and then wrote:
In article <4315f650$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net>,
"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote:
On 08/31/2005 12:51 PM, Jack Zwick pondered briefly and then wrote:
[...]
Shouldn't you change your on screen name to Chicken Little? It would
certainly be fitting.
I love it when USENET posters lose an argument and lapse into childish
insults.
Now who's slinging personal insults?
I never insulted you, nor did I loose any 'argument'. You have yet to
prove any of your 'guesses'.
Calling me Chicken Little is what if not an insult.
I didn't call you Chicken Little. I suggested you might want to consider
that for a 'screen name' based upon the attitude you reflect here.
I made no guess, and refuse to, I just called you on your guess of free
upgrades.
Then you're guessing there won't be free upgrades. You can't have it
both ways.
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I never said there won't be, I just said you can't say there will be. |
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ric
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:08 am Post subject:
Re: New HD channels WILL require new receivers. |
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Steve M. Mann wrote:
| Quote: | I made no guess, and refuse to, I just called you on your guess of free
upgrades.
Then you're guessing there won't be free upgrades. You can't have it
both ways.
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I see logic isn't your strong suit. |
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Jeff Rife
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:08 am Post subject:
Re: New HD channels WILL require new receivers. |
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Randy S. (rswitt@nospam.com) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:
| Quote: | In Washington, DC (#8 market in the country), there are 12 digital TV
channels on line. Five of them are SD-only, and only one of the other
7 shows any HDTV that isn't sourced from the network.
This is pretty much typical across the country, although some areas don't
have any passthrough of network HD...they have nothing but SD.
Locally it seems pretty typical that a broadcaster will have 2
subchannels, one of which is SD, the other is either HD all the time, or
HD in the evening, and SD the rest of the time.
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Actually, that's true here, too, if you want the details.
Of the 7 that show some HDTV, 3 have a full-time setup with one HD sub-channel
and one SD sub-channel. PBS varies (HD only at night, and 4 SD channels
during the day), while WB, Fox, and UPN are full-time with a single HD
channel.
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Jeff Rife | "If the world were destroyed and you were the
| last man within a thousand mile radius, I would
| swim across the ocean on a rumor that Screech
| from 'Saved by the Bell' was spotted in Japan."
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Jack Zwick
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject:
Re: New HD channels WILL require new receivers. |
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In article <ZcvRe.5877$sw6.4589@fed1read05>, ric <nospam@home.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | Steve M. Mann wrote:
I made no guess, and refuse to, I just called you on your guess of free
upgrades.
Then you're guessing there won't be free upgrades. You can't have it
both ways.
I see logic isn't your strong suit.
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You're the one with fault logic. If not "A" doesn't mean not "B".
Sorry you didn't take logic in college.
ALl I say is we don't know, and DirecTv won't say despite SEC guidelines
that might require it. |
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Gary Tait
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject:
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Joe Smith <joe@inwap.com> wrote in news:XJWdneyhAbQnr4neRVn-3Q@comcast.com:
| Quote: | Gary Davis wrote:
No existing receiver is designed to handle the 102.8 WL slot.
You are overlooking the fact that most receivers can take software
upgrades.
But software upgrades don't help if it takes new hardware to
receive channels in a different frequency band.
-Joe
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But the differen frequency band will be downconverted to the same IF that
has been used for nearly 20 years. |
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Gary Tait
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject:
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"AGN" <agnesspor1234@comcast.net> wrote in news:-9ydnQNPYs4TAIjeRVn-
gQ@comcast.com:
| Quote: | Watch and see, sport. Do you actually believe that the units cost DTV
anywhere near $1000?
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Considering they are ground up new technology, they will have an MSRP of at
least $500 to begin with. That is before any subsdies and rebates DirecTV
carves from the MSRP. |
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Jack Zwick
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject:
Re: New HD channels WILL require new receivers. |
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In article <Xns96C46316BCB9wonkynillmailnil@142.77.1.194>,
Gary Tait <classicsat@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Joe Smith <joe@inwap.com> wrote in news:XJWdneyhAbQnr4neRVn-3Q@comcast.com:
Gary Davis wrote:
No existing receiver is designed to handle the 102.8 WL slot.
You are overlooking the fact that most receivers can take software
upgrades.
But software upgrades don't help if it takes new hardware to
receive channels in a different frequency band.
-Joe
But the differen frequency band will be downconverted to the same IF that
has been used for nearly 20 years.
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Perhaps he meant Different orbital slot. |
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ric
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject:
Re: New HD channels WILL require new receivers. |
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Jack Zwick wrote:
| Quote: | In article <ZcvRe.5877$sw6.4589@fed1read05>, ric <nospam@home.com
wrote:
Steve M. Mann wrote:
I made no guess, and refuse to, I just called you on your guess of free
upgrades.
Then you're guessing there won't be free upgrades. You can't have it
both ways.
I see logic isn't your strong suit.
You're the one with fault logic. If not "A" doesn't mean not "B".
Sorry you didn't take logic in college.
ALl I say is we don't know, and DirecTv won't say despite SEC guidelines
that might require it.
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Choose your battles wisely, Jack. And learn to follow attributes.
My comment was in response to Steve's post, not yours. Or are you
simply stuck in the attack mode? |
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Steve M. Mann
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:06 pm Post subject:
Re: New HD channels WILL require new receivers. |
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On 09/01/2005 12:51 PM, ric pondered briefly and then wrote:
| Quote: | Jack Zwick wrote:
In article <ZcvRe.5877$sw6.4589@fed1read05>, ric <nospam@home.com
wrote:
Steve M. Mann wrote:
I made no guess, and refuse to, I just called you on your guess of free
upgrades.
Then you're guessing there won't be free upgrades. You can't have it
both ways.
I see logic isn't your strong suit.
You're the one with fault logic. If not "A" doesn't mean not "B".
Sorry you didn't take logic in college.
ALl I say is we don't know, and DirecTv won't say despite SEC guidelines
that might require it.
Choose your battles wisely, Jack. And learn to follow attributes.
My comment was in response to Steve's post, not yours. Or are you
simply stuck in the attack mode?
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Now that wouldn't be very logical, would it?
--
Steve
http://www.soundclick.com/rockermann |
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Jack Zwick
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Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:05 am Post subject:
Re: New HD channels WILL require new receivers. |
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In article <4317420b$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net>,
"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 09/01/2005 12:51 PM, ric pondered briefly and then wrote:
Jack Zwick wrote:
In article <ZcvRe.5877$sw6.4589@fed1read05>, ric <nospam@home.com
wrote:
Steve M. Mann wrote:
I made no guess, and refuse to, I just called you on your guess of free
upgrades.
Then you're guessing there won't be free upgrades. You can't have it
both ways.
I see logic isn't your strong suit.
You're the one with fault logic. If not "A" doesn't mean not "B".
Sorry you didn't take logic in college.
ALl I say is we don't know, and DirecTv won't say despite SEC guidelines
that might require it.
Choose your battles wisely, Jack. And learn to follow attributes.
My comment was in response to Steve's post, not yours. Or are you
simply stuck in the attack mode?
Now that wouldn't be very logical, would it?
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Now that I have my FREE HR10-250, I look forward to the day of my free
MPEG4 HD-DVR upgrade. When did you all say that would be? |
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Steve M. Mann
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Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:08 am Post subject:
Re: New HD channels WILL require new receivers. |
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On 9/1/2005 3:49 PM, Jack Zwick pondered for some undetermined amount of
time then wrote:
| Quote: | In article <431764c8$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net>,
"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote:
On 09/01/2005 3:05 PM, Jack Zwick pondered briefly and then wrote:
In article <43175d96$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net>,
"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote:
On 09/01/2005 2:05 PM, Jack Zwick pondered briefly and then wrote:
In article <4317420b$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net>,
"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote:
On 09/01/2005 12:51 PM, ric pondered briefly and then wrote:
Jack Zwick wrote:
In article <ZcvRe.5877$sw6.4589@fed1read05>, ric <nospam@home.com
wrote:
Steve M. Mann wrote:
I made no guess, and refuse to, I just called you on your guess of
free
upgrades.
Then you're guessing there won't be free upgrades. You can't have it
both ways.
I see logic isn't your strong suit.
You're the one with fault logic. If not "A" doesn't mean not "B".
Sorry you didn't take logic in college.
ALl I say is we don't know, and DirecTv won't say despite SEC
guidelines
that might require it.
Choose your battles wisely, Jack. And learn to follow attributes.
My comment was in response to Steve's post, not yours. Or are you
simply stuck in the attack mode?
Now that wouldn't be very logical, would it?
Now that I have my FREE HR10-250, I look forward to the day of my free
MPEG4 HD-DVR upgrade. When did you all say that would be?
Most likely, just a few days after they send it.
They don't send them, they are delivered by Installers.
They'll be sending it with an installer.
I'll call retention twice a day between now and then.
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You'll fit right in.
--
Steve
http://www.soundclick.com/rockermann |
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Jack Zwick
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| Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:08 am Post subject:
Re: New HD channels WILL require new receivers. |
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In article <43175d96$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net>,
"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 09/01/2005 2:05 PM, Jack Zwick pondered briefly and then wrote:
In article <4317420b$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net>,
"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote:
On 09/01/2005 12:51 PM, ric pondered briefly and then wrote:
Jack Zwick wrote:
In article <ZcvRe.5877$sw6.4589@fed1read05>, ric <nospam@home.com
wrote:
Steve M. Mann wrote:
I made no guess, and refuse to, I just called you on your guess of
free
upgrades.
Then you're guessing there won't be free upgrades. You can't have it
both ways.
I see logic isn't your strong suit.
You're the one with fault logic. If not "A" doesn't mean not "B".
Sorry you didn't take logic in college.
ALl I say is we don't know, and DirecTv won't say despite SEC
guidelines
that might require it.
Choose your battles wisely, Jack. And learn to follow attributes.
My comment was in response to Steve's post, not yours. Or are you
simply stuck in the attack mode?
Now that wouldn't be very logical, would it?
Now that I have my FREE HR10-250, I look forward to the day of my free
MPEG4 HD-DVR upgrade. When did you all say that would be?
Most likely, just a few days after they send it.
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They don't send them, they are delivered by Installers. |
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Jack Zwick
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| Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:08 am Post subject:
Re: New HD channels WILL require new receivers. |
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In article <431764c8$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net>,
"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 09/01/2005 3:05 PM, Jack Zwick pondered briefly and then wrote:
In article <43175d96$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net>,
"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote:
On 09/01/2005 2:05 PM, Jack Zwick pondered briefly and then wrote:
In article <4317420b$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net>,
"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote:
On 09/01/2005 12:51 PM, ric pondered briefly and then wrote:
Jack Zwick wrote:
In article <ZcvRe.5877$sw6.4589@fed1read05>, ric <nospam@home.com
wrote:
Steve M. Mann wrote:
I made no guess, and refuse to, I just called you on your guess of
free
upgrades.
Then you're guessing there won't be free upgrades. You can't have it
both ways.
I see logic isn't your strong suit.
You're the one with fault logic. If not "A" doesn't mean not "B".
Sorry you didn't take logic in college.
ALl I say is we don't know, and DirecTv won't say despite SEC
guidelines
that might require it.
Choose your battles wisely, Jack. And learn to follow attributes.
My comment was in response to Steve's post, not yours. Or are you
simply stuck in the attack mode?
Now that wouldn't be very logical, would it?
Now that I have my FREE HR10-250, I look forward to the day of my free
MPEG4 HD-DVR upgrade. When did you all say that would be?
Most likely, just a few days after they send it.
They don't send them, they are delivered by Installers.
They'll be sending it with an installer.
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I'll call retention twice a day between now and then. |
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Steve M. Mann
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| Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:08 am Post subject:
Re: New HD channels WILL require new receivers. |
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On 09/01/2005 3:05 PM, Jack Zwick pondered briefly and then wrote:
| Quote: | In article <43175d96$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net>,
"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote:
On 09/01/2005 2:05 PM, Jack Zwick pondered briefly and then wrote:
In article <4317420b$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net>,
"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote:
On 09/01/2005 12:51 PM, ric pondered briefly and then wrote:
Jack Zwick wrote:
In article <ZcvRe.5877$sw6.4589@fed1read05>, ric <nospam@home.com
wrote:
Steve M. Mann wrote:
I made no guess, and refuse to, I just called you on your guess of
free
upgrades.
Then you're guessing there won't be free upgrades. You can't have it
both ways.
I see logic isn't your strong suit.
You're the one with fault logic. If not "A" doesn't mean not "B".
Sorry you didn't take logic in college.
ALl I say is we don't know, and DirecTv won't say despite SEC
guidelines
that might require it.
Choose your battles wisely, Jack. And learn to follow attributes.
My comment was in response to Steve's post, not yours. Or are you
simply stuck in the attack mode?
Now that wouldn't be very logical, would it?
Now that I have my FREE HR10-250, I look forward to the day of my free
MPEG4 HD-DVR upgrade. When did you all say that would be?
Most likely, just a few days after they send it.
They don't send them, they are delivered by Installers.
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They'll be sending it with an installer.
--
Steve
http://www.soundclick.com/rockermann |
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