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Amun
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: They should rename Starchoice to "Program Information No Reply with quote

Sad to say it. But especially in Canada.
But when it comes to "TV" unless you can put up your own antenna, it really
comes down to which is the least of the evils.
On the "short list" that the govt. allows you to choose from.

Little wonder why some people just risk being thrown into solitary
confinement and find other "illegal" options.
Even though they are willing to pay for it. <g>

But lets not forget that Canada is the same country where you pay a "levy"
on blank recording media that goes to the recording industry.
And still can't "legally" use them to record an mp3 you get off the net

Gard bless canada
(while doing your best benny hill salute impression)

AMUN


"~" <tonygwarrior@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:H56We.2959$6Z1.727995@news20.bellglobal.com...
Quote:
That, along with some posts about the loss of HD Movie Central-which has
me
worried about losing TMN HD.
I hate... HATE HATE HATE Rogers Cable, but I'm thinking I made a mistake
going to BEV. I might have to look into those early-release fees and go
back to being raped by Rogers.

"Amun" <spamblocker@bell.net> wrote in message
news:wH5We.3394$1G4.503908@news20.bellglobal.com...
Well it sounds like they/you tried all that I can think of.



Only thing you can try yet is the receiver on another known good dish.

I can't see the beginning of this thread, but I am assuming this is a
NEW
ird that should still be under warranty.

If you have a bell store in your area, drag the receiver down there,
and
tell them to try it on THEIR dish.
(most have a working display set up and both LNB's, and it should be
peaked)

If it's the same there, .....rip bev apart.
As they should have never left you with a 50% signal, and charged you
for
it.
Every cloud that must have gone by would be giving you "rain fade"and
knocked out the signal dozens of times a day. <wink

Mind you I've just noticed tonight several posts mentioning lower power
on
82.
I wonder if there is something going on the bev is not telling.?


Amun




"~" <tonygwarrior@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:dZ2We.2869$6Z1.676528@news20.bellglobal.com...
The signal amplifier is actually a Dishnet product (a powered signal
amplifier) called 'VideoPath Power Inserter. It does absolutely
nothing
to
improve the signal though. And I'm pretty sure they ran the 82
straight
to
the receiver, just as I had myself earlier and I think that's as high
as
it
ever got. And they did even change the entire mast/dish and LNB set
when
they couldn't get a higher signal.
Eventually they just ran thruogh the channels and told me that the
only
station that wasn't coming in was the HD Promotional Channel but later
on
when going through the channels, I noticed that FOX and WGN wouldn't
come
in
most itmes. If they DID come in, it was only because I put it on that
station and just left the error screen up for awhile.
I still have a Bell dish mounted on the roof and a DTV dish in my
basement
so I'm planning on using one of them to get the 82 on its own and not
even
bother with the weak signal I'm getting for 82 on the big dish I'm
using
now.

"Amun" <spamblocker@bell.net> wrote in message
news:TX1We.3008$1G4.459577@news20.bellglobal.com...
I'm wondering what kind of amplifier bev would have hung on there.
I wasn't even aware there was such a beast.

Sounds like you had some real winner techs there though.

Did they try just the 82 lnb with a straight wire (no switch) ?

And just try re-aiming to one sat. ?

Are you using an old wire ? (not highly likely the problem if 91 is
good)

Did they swap the lnbs ?

If you can try the IRD somewhere else (at a friend.neighbors who
also
has
bev) is the signal still weak ?
(could be a defective receiver)


The really strange thing is that as bad as bev is, they usually
insist
on
at
least 80% signal, before they will turn on the acct.
Are you sure you are telling us everything ?

AMUN


"~" <tonygwarrior@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:%B1We.2805$6Z1.665729@news20.bellglobal.com...
No, it's perfectly clear. I was trying to set the dish up myself
(after
years of doing it for DTV and Dishnetwork) I figured it'd be easy,
but
my
ego took a big blow when I could never get it above 50%. So the
guys
from
BEV came out, had the same problem. Then they connected a signal
amplifier
and also connected 4 cables (2 from each LNB) to a switch outside
and
ran
it
into the house to get a signal of (wait for it.... take a wild
guess!)
50%.
And that's as good as it has ever been. I decided to go with BEV
because,
for over a year, I had Rogers Cable out MANY (I'm talking over 20
times)
to
try and fix problems I had receiving Global, TMN, NBC and CBC HD
stations.
They could never fix the problem and ended up just telling me
'Look,
that's
the best you're going to get'. So I promptly told them to fuck
off,
as
they
said there was no way I get a cut rate because they can't supply
what
they're charging for. So now I go to BEV and it's really no
different.
That's Canada for ya I guess.



"Slartibartfarst" <pfltd@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ds1We.2985$1G4.455482@news20.bellglobal.com...
Is there a line of sight issue that prevents you getting more
signal
on
82.?

If there is, then maybe you should consider moving the Dish to a
better
location.

Slartibartfarst

"~" <tonygwarrior@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:p81We.2796$6Z1.662307@news20.bellglobal.com...
I've been nothing but disappointed in BEV (the satellite
company
that
labelled as 'Superior by far-over SC' which blows my mind
because
SC
must
be
REALLY bad).
The installers came out and oculdn't get anyh igher of a
signal
for
the
82
satellite than I did (which is anywhere between 45 and
50%-which
means
I
rarely get Fox East HD, WGN HD and a couple of others. Of
course
it's
too
late to do anything about it through the company so I'll be
using
a
neighbor's dish just to get the 2nd satellite, as opposed to
the
dish
that
is SUPPOSED to get both satellites.
But slightly more on topic, I noticed while watching (or
TRYING
to)
House
on
the Fox station last night, that BEV simulcasts the Global
feed
on
it,
which
Rogers didn't with their HD channels. That's one of the few
things
that
made me happy about Rogers HD service. Well, that and the
fact
that
they
provide guide data on their commonly defective HD cable boxes.

"sn00p" <sn00p@haveashittyday.com> wrote in message
news:3qWVe.197779$Hk.195201@pd7tw1no...
i think bev is more incompetent... sc inserts their ads into
us
stations
as
well but at least does a good job of it, bev just butchers
them
in
"Ad Hoc Guy" <PussyFart@hic-ups.org> wrote in message
news:jTNVe.2493$6Z1.559080@news20.bellglobal.com...
That's one of the reasons why I scrapped Star Choice 2
years
ago
and
went
with Bell and DN.
Star Choice are a bunch of incompetant Bozos.I still have
the
dish
and
receiver and I'm thinking of using the Star choice dish as
a
Bird
Bath...


--
"ever wonder who the first person was that said "you know,
I
think
I'm
going
to eat the first thing that comes out of that chicken's
ass"!

heinzmenses@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:1126666343.619113.101720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Is the guy who fills in the program descriptions for
Starchoice
taking
a lot of NyQuil (I love that big f*cking Q) or something?


















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Homer J. Simpson
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: They should rename Starchoice to "Program Information No Reply with quote

Quote:
Is the guy who fills in the program descriptions for Starchoice taking
a lot of NyQuil (I love that big f*cking Q) or something?

They buy the guide info from zap2it. Go the SC website, search program
listings by postal code. If your receivers DO NOT show the same info
(you are getting NO INFO where Zap2it shows guide info); then your
receiver needs a hard reset to flush the guide. Pull power cord for at
least 1 minute.

I've given up on SC's onscreen guide. Instead I use XMLTV, which grabs the
listings from Zap2it and saves them locally. Same data (for the most part),
but you can download 11-12 days worth of data in advance.
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: They should rename Starchoice to "Program Information No Reply with quote

"DevilsPGD" <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
news:uvvii1lfrtb6h66ihejv8o4i08f8bo656p@4ax.com...
Quote:
In message <xQdWe.3493$1G4.535865@news20.bellglobal.com> "Amun"
spamblocker@bell.net> wrote:

But lets not forget that Canada is the same country where you pay a
"levy"
on blank recording media that goes to the recording industry.
And still can't "legally" use them to record an mp3 you get off the net

That's not what the supreme court ruled -- In fact, it's just the
opposite, the court ruled that downloading music IS legal in Canada.


Perhaps this week, next week that may change,.....AGAIN
Just like you can "get" dish or direct, in Canada legally too, until they
change it next /week/month
(if they haven't already) <g>

AMUN
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DevilsPGD
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: They should rename Starchoice to "Program Information No Reply with quote

In message <xQdWe.3493$1G4.535865@news20.bellglobal.com> "Amun"
<spamblocker@bell.net> wrote:

Quote:
But lets not forget that Canada is the same country where you pay a "levy"
on blank recording media that goes to the recording industry.
And still can't "legally" use them to record an mp3 you get off the net

That's not what the supreme court ruled -- In fact, it's just the
opposite, the court ruled that downloading music IS legal in Canada.

--
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
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sn00p
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:19 am    Post subject: Re: They should rename Starchoice to "Program Information No Reply with quote

i started with dtv, then sc, then switched to bev, then to dish, and i'm
back with sc again now... the conclusion i've come to...the canadian ones
pretty much suck for programming choices and quality. but, either have good
equipment and good guides... just the twits in the control rooms are what
gives them the bum rap... they should set up out west to get away from all
the paki imports they have working for them (i suppose then though they'll
be choosing from japanese or chinese... but as long as they can speak, i
don't care)
"~" <tonygwarrior@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:p81We.2796$6Z1.662307@news20.bellglobal.com...
Quote:
I've been nothing but disappointed in BEV (the satellite company that
labelled as 'Superior by far-over SC' which blows my mind because SC must
be
REALLY bad).
The installers came out and oculdn't get anyh igher of a signal for the 82
satellite than I did (which is anywhere between 45 and 50%-which means I
rarely get Fox East HD, WGN HD and a couple of others. Of course it's too
late to do anything about it through the company so I'll be using a
neighbor's dish just to get the 2nd satellite, as opposed to the dish that
is SUPPOSED to get both satellites.
But slightly more on topic, I noticed while watching (or TRYING to) House
on
the Fox station last night, that BEV simulcasts the Global feed on it,
which
Rogers didn't with their HD channels. That's one of the few things that
made me happy about Rogers HD service. Well, that and the fact that they
provide guide data on their commonly defective HD cable boxes.

"sn00p" <sn00p@haveashittyday.com> wrote in message
news:3qWVe.197779$Hk.195201@pd7tw1no...
i think bev is more incompetent... sc inserts their ads into us stations
as
well but at least does a good job of it, bev just butchers them in
"Ad Hoc Guy" <PussyFart@hic-ups.org> wrote in message
news:jTNVe.2493$6Z1.559080@news20.bellglobal.com...
That's one of the reasons why I scrapped Star Choice 2 years ago and
went
with Bell and DN.
Star Choice are a bunch of incompetant Bozos.I still have the dish and
receiver and I'm thinking of using the Star choice dish as a Bird
Bath...


--
"ever wonder who the first person was that said "you know, I think I'm
going
to eat the first thing that comes out of that chicken's ass"!

heinzmenses@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126666343.619113.101720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Is the guy who fills in the program descriptions for Starchoice taking
a lot of NyQuil (I love that big f*cking Q) or something?






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~
Guest





Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: They should rename Starchoice to "Program Information No Reply with quote

Hey, I'm all for the Asians bing employed there. Hell, isn't it 'their
people' that help build, or at least design, the hardware?

"sn00p" <sn00p@haveashittyday.com> wrote in message
news:u4pWe.494331$5V4.213688@pd7tw3no...
Quote:
i started with dtv, then sc, then switched to bev, then to dish, and i'm
back with sc again now... the conclusion i've come to...the canadian ones
pretty much suck for programming choices and quality. but, either have
good
equipment and good guides... just the twits in the control rooms are what
gives them the bum rap... they should set up out west to get away from all
the paki imports they have working for them (i suppose then though they'll
be choosing from japanese or chinese... but as long as they can speak, i
don't care)
"~" <tonygwarrior@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:p81We.2796$6Z1.662307@news20.bellglobal.com...
I've been nothing but disappointed in BEV (the satellite company that
labelled as 'Superior by far-over SC' which blows my mind because SC
must
be
REALLY bad).
The installers came out and oculdn't get anyh igher of a signal for the
82
satellite than I did (which is anywhere between 45 and 50%-which means I
rarely get Fox East HD, WGN HD and a couple of others. Of course it's
too
late to do anything about it through the company so I'll be using a
neighbor's dish just to get the 2nd satellite, as opposed to the dish
that
is SUPPOSED to get both satellites.
But slightly more on topic, I noticed while watching (or TRYING to)
House
on
the Fox station last night, that BEV simulcasts the Global feed on it,
which
Rogers didn't with their HD channels. That's one of the few things that
made me happy about Rogers HD service. Well, that and the fact that
they
provide guide data on their commonly defective HD cable boxes.

"sn00p" <sn00p@haveashittyday.com> wrote in message
news:3qWVe.197779$Hk.195201@pd7tw1no...
i think bev is more incompetent... sc inserts their ads into us
stations
as
well but at least does a good job of it, bev just butchers them in
"Ad Hoc Guy" <PussyFart@hic-ups.org> wrote in message
news:jTNVe.2493$6Z1.559080@news20.bellglobal.com...
That's one of the reasons why I scrapped Star Choice 2 years ago and
went
with Bell and DN.
Star Choice are a bunch of incompetant Bozos.I still have the dish
and
receiver and I'm thinking of using the Star choice dish as a Bird
Bath...


--
"ever wonder who the first person was that said "you know, I think
I'm
going
to eat the first thing that comes out of that chicken's ass"!

heinzmenses@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126666343.619113.101720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Is the guy who fills in the program descriptions for Starchoice
taking
a lot of NyQuil (I love that big f*cking Q) or something?








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sn00p
Guest





Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: They should rename Starchoice to "Program Information No Reply with quote

haha, probably... i think sc stuff/motorola is american isn't it? i really
dunno... not important. all that matters is that i had my opportunity to
make a slightly racist remark tonight.... downloaded and listened to a clear
copy of brocket99 tonight and it seemed fitting ;) (if you've never heard of
it, look for it, you'll laugh your ass off.... me maybe more so cause this
is close to my geographic area and know all the stereotypes 1st hand)
"~" <tonygwarrior@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:DUpWe.3494$6Z1.871230@news20.bellglobal.com...
Quote:
Hey, I'm all for the Asians bing employed there. Hell, isn't it 'their
people' that help build, or at least design, the hardware?

"sn00p" <sn00p@haveashittyday.com> wrote in message
news:u4pWe.494331$5V4.213688@pd7tw3no...
i started with dtv, then sc, then switched to bev, then to dish, and i'm
back with sc again now... the conclusion i've come to...the canadian ones
pretty much suck for programming choices and quality. but, either have
good
equipment and good guides... just the twits in the control rooms are what
gives them the bum rap... they should set up out west to get away from
all
the paki imports they have working for them (i suppose then though
they'll
be choosing from japanese or chinese... but as long as they can speak, i
don't care)
"~" <tonygwarrior@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:p81We.2796$6Z1.662307@news20.bellglobal.com...
I've been nothing but disappointed in BEV (the satellite company that
labelled as 'Superior by far-over SC' which blows my mind because SC
must
be
REALLY bad).
The installers came out and oculdn't get anyh igher of a signal for the
82
satellite than I did (which is anywhere between 45 and 50%-which means
I
rarely get Fox East HD, WGN HD and a couple of others. Of course it's
too
late to do anything about it through the company so I'll be using a
neighbor's dish just to get the 2nd satellite, as opposed to the dish
that
is SUPPOSED to get both satellites.
But slightly more on topic, I noticed while watching (or TRYING to)
House
on
the Fox station last night, that BEV simulcasts the Global feed on it,
which
Rogers didn't with their HD channels. That's one of the few things
that
made me happy about Rogers HD service. Well, that and the fact that
they
provide guide data on their commonly defective HD cable boxes.

"sn00p" <sn00p@haveashittyday.com> wrote in message
news:3qWVe.197779$Hk.195201@pd7tw1no...
i think bev is more incompetent... sc inserts their ads into us
stations
as
well but at least does a good job of it, bev just butchers them in
"Ad Hoc Guy" <PussyFart@hic-ups.org> wrote in message
news:jTNVe.2493$6Z1.559080@news20.bellglobal.com...
That's one of the reasons why I scrapped Star Choice 2 years ago and
went
with Bell and DN.
Star Choice are a bunch of incompetant Bozos.I still have the dish
and
receiver and I'm thinking of using the Star choice dish as a Bird
Bath...


--
"ever wonder who the first person was that said "you know, I think
I'm
going
to eat the first thing that comes out of that chicken's ass"!

heinzmenses@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126666343.619113.101720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Is the guy who fills in the program descriptions for Starchoice
taking
a lot of NyQuil (I love that big f*cking Q) or something?










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