Can I run up a PPV bill and then put the new card in and wip

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Can I run up a PPV bill and then put the new card in and wip

Postby Piezo Guru » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:54 pm

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Re: Can I run up a PPV bill and then put the new card in and

Postby Bon » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:56 pm

Yes


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Re: Can I run up a PPV bill and then put the new card in and

Postby Art Vandlelay » Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:50 pm

I believe in the process of the subscribers card swap, anything on the old
card is transferred to the new card, including any charges such as PPV. I
know DTV was that way, but I could be wrong. Cheers



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How?




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Yes


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Re: Can I run up a PPV bill and then put the new card in and

Postby Guest » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:23 am

How?




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Re: Can I run up a PPV bill and then put the new card in and

Postby DevilsPGD » Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:35 am

In message <woJwd.44430$3d2.1383230@weber.videotron.net> "Art Vandlelay"
<trapdoorwpg@gmail.com> wrote:

I believe in the process of the subscribers card swap, anything on the old
card is transferred to the new card, including any charges such as PPV. I
know DTV was that way, but I could be wrong. Cheers

I'm curious, how would they accomplish this? Even if the receiver can
store the data in memory, you could factory reset the receiver before
inserting the new card, couldn't you?


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Re: Can I run up a PPV bill and then put the new card in and

Postby Little Brittle & the C Ba » Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:58 pm

PPV Purchases are stored on the card , and in some cases also stored in the
receivers memory.



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In message <woJwd.44430$3d2.1383230@weber.videotron.net> "Art Vandlelay"
trapdoorwpg@gmail.com> wrote:

I believe in the process of the subscribers card swap, anything on the
old
card is transferred to the new card, including any charges such as PPV. I
know DTV was that way, but I could be wrong. Cheers

I'm curious, how would they accomplish this? Even if the receiver can
store the data in memory, you could factory reset the receiver before
inserting the new card, couldn't you?


--
do not creep a coconut
-- NANAE
Little Brittle & the C Ba
 

Re: Can I run up a PPV bill and then put the new card in and

Postby DevilsPGD » Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:36 pm

In message <EkZwd.30820$%p1.2140786@news20.bellglobal.com> "Little
Brittle & the C Bag" <littlebrittle@cbag.com> wrote:

PPV Purchases are stored on the card , and in some cases also stored in the
receivers memory.

If you set the receiver to reset it's memory before you pull the old
smartcard, then pull the smartcard and reboot the receiver with the new
card installed, it should do the trick, no?


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Re: Can I run up a PPV bill and then put the new card in and

Postby Dohhh!!! » Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:53 pm

DevilsPGD <devilspgd@crazyhat.net> wrote:
In message <woJwd.44430$3d2.1383230@weber.videotron.net> "Art Vandlelay"
trapdoorwpg@gmail.com> wrote:

I believe in the process of the subscribers card swap, anything on the old
card is transferred to the new card, including any charges such as PPV. I
know DTV was that way, but I could be wrong. Cheers

I'm curious, how would they accomplish this? Even if the receiver can
store the data in memory, you could factory reset the receiver before
inserting the new card, couldn't you?

You could, but it likely wouldn't make any difference.

On the DTV card swap, rebooting the receiver between inserting the old and new
cards would just cause the procedure to start over. The code to do the swap
was both clever and complex, and worked extremely well, complete with
on-screen prompts guiding you all the way. All data from the old card was
transferred to the new.
Dohhh!!!
 

Re: Can I run up a PPV bill and then put the new card in and

Postby Little Brittle & the C Ba » Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:11 am

No, that will not work. There is a process to exchange the card,you must
follow that process. Rebooting the machine basically is the same as turning
the receiver off. The process is not complete and you have to start over.



"DevilsPGD" <devilspgd@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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In message <EkZwd.30820$%p1.2140786@news20.bellglobal.com> "Little
Brittle & the C Bag" <littlebrittle@cbag.com> wrote:

PPV Purchases are stored on the card , and in some cases also stored in
the
receivers memory.

If you set the receiver to reset it's memory before you pull the old
smartcard, then pull the smartcard and reboot the receiver with the new
card installed, it should do the trick, no?


--
When you're arguing with a fool, make sure he isn't doing the same thing.
Little Brittle & the C Ba
 

Re: Can I run up a PPV bill and then put the new card in and

Postby DevilsPGD » Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:32 am

In message <9dg9s0tbte46ev1a4o7d1ivp18dsj4ggov@4ax.com>
me@homer.com(Dohhh!!!) wrote:

I believe in the process of the subscribers card swap, anything on the old
card is transferred to the new card, including any charges such as PPV. I
know DTV was that way, but I could be wrong. Cheers

I'm curious, how would they accomplish this? Even if the receiver can
store the data in memory, you could factory reset the receiver before
inserting the new card, couldn't you?

You could, but it likely wouldn't make any difference.

On the DTV card swap, rebooting the receiver between inserting the old and new
cards would just cause the procedure to start over. The code to do the swap
was both clever and complex, and worked extremely well, complete with
on-screen prompts guiding you all the way. All data from the old card was
transferred to the new.

Ahh. So if the code is this smart, why do they require you phone in,
why can't the receiver call in and initiate the process when the user is
ready?


--
Nobody ever lost money underestimating the human intelligence.
-- P.T.Barnum
DevilsPGD
 

Re: Can I run up a PPV bill and then put the new card in and

Postby Piezo Guru » Sun Dec 19, 2004 3:31 am

OK...who is willing to sacrifice one PPV to find out?

"Little Brittle & the C Bag" <littlebrittle@cbag.com> wrote in message
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No, that will not work. There is a process to exchange the card,you must
follow that process. Rebooting the machine basically is the same as
turning
the receiver off. The process is not complete and you have to start over.



"DevilsPGD" <devilspgd@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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In message <EkZwd.30820$%p1.2140786@news20.bellglobal.com> "Little
Brittle & the C Bag" <littlebrittle@cbag.com> wrote:

PPV Purchases are stored on the card , and in some cases also stored in
the
receivers memory.

If you set the receiver to reset it's memory before you pull the old
smartcard, then pull the smartcard and reboot the receiver with the new
card installed, it should do the trick, no?


--
When you're arguing with a fool, make sure he isn't doing the same
thing.

Piezo Guru
 

Re: Can I run up a PPV bill and then put the new card in and

Postby Piezo Guru » Sun Dec 19, 2004 3:32 am

So they can tell you one more time to plug your phone line in or else?

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In message <9dg9s0tbte46ev1a4o7d1ivp18dsj4ggov@4ax.com
me@homer.com(Dohhh!!!) wrote:

I believe in the process of the subscribers card swap, anything on the
old
card is transferred to the new card, including any charges such as PPV.
I
know DTV was that way, but I could be wrong. Cheers

I'm curious, how would they accomplish this? Even if the receiver can
store the data in memory, you could factory reset the receiver before
inserting the new card, couldn't you?

You could, but it likely wouldn't make any difference.

On the DTV card swap, rebooting the receiver between inserting the old
and new
cards would just cause the procedure to start over. The code to do the
swap
was both clever and complex, and worked extremely well, complete with
on-screen prompts guiding you all the way. All data from the old card was
transferred to the new.

Ahh. So if the code is this smart, why do they require you phone in,
why can't the receiver call in and initiate the process when the user is
ready?


--
Nobody ever lost money underestimating the human intelligence.
-- P.T.Barnum
Piezo Guru
 

Re: Can I run up a PPV bill and then put the new card in and

Postby DevilsPGD » Sun Dec 19, 2004 4:13 am

In message <1103427031.846c11031e1fe18113e6cbb04737661c@teranews> "Piezo
Guru" <gbusey@honmail.com> wrote:

why can't the receiver call in and initiate the process when the user is
ready?

So they can tell you one more time to plug your phone line in or else?


They could display that on the screen, then if it can't connect it would
tell you to phone in, just like the signup process.


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a sport combining the surface of hockey with the thrill
of watching paint dry.
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Re: Can I run up a PPV bill and then put the new card in and

Postby Piezo Guru » Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:18 am

My IRD has been trying to dial in to Bev for years. It must be a loose
connection on the jack (about 12 feet gap)


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In message <1103427031.846c11031e1fe18113e6cbb04737661c@teranews> "Piezo
Guru" <gbusey@honmail.com> wrote:

why can't the receiver call in and initiate the process when the user
is
ready?

So they can tell you one more time to plug your phone line in or else?


They could display that on the screen, then if it can't connect it would
tell you to phone in, just like the signup process.


--
1832-Curling is introduced to the U.S., giving Americans
a sport combining the surface of hockey with the thrill
of watching paint dry.
Piezo Guru
 

Re: Can I run up a PPV bill and then put the new card in and

Postby DevilsPGD » Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:34 am

In message <1103433390.53b1000548452b4a89028be4d0c00cd5@teranews> "Piezo
Guru" <gbusey@honmail.com> wrote:

They could display that on the screen, then if it can't connect it would
tell you to phone in, just like the signup process.

My IRD has been trying to dial in to Bev for years. It must be a loose
connection on the jack (about 12 feet gap)

I said exactly the same thing when BEV phoned me. What are the chances?
And I bet it's exactly the same problem too.

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Do not taunt zombie badgers
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