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Select and navigate

Postby phk » Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:21 pm

What´s the difference between City select and City Navigate (Garmins card
material)?

Can´t find anything on their pages about it.


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Re: Select and navigate

Postby Nacho » Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:46 pm

Hello.

I think that the difference is only the equipment that can use it. City
Select is for some equipments and City Navigator for others. Check the
Garmin web for compatibility. Why the price difference of Metroguide, CS
and CN is so high? I think that is Garmin's policy. More expensive
equipment requires more expensive software, even if in essence, all are
nearly the same.

Both CS and CN can do autorouting in some GPS. But Metroguide can do
autorouting on the PC, so I think it has all the information needed.

It's like the new policy to not provide regional unlock code. For City
Select Europe (that I am interested on it) I have to buy the entire
Europe unlock code. But I only want one region! My solution? Not to buy
it, too expensive for me, I'm only interested in a 15% of the product or
even less, Spain is one of the regions with less detail.

As Garmin is the only manufacturer that can provide maps for its units,
they can fix any price, there is no competence.

That is my comment.

Best regards.

phk wrote:
What´s the difference between City select and City Navigate (Garmins card
material)?

Can´t find anything on their pages about it.

Nacho
 

Re: Select and navigate

Postby Peter » Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:58 pm

Nacho wrote:

I think that the difference is only the equipment that can use it. City
Select is for some equipments and City Navigator for others. Check the
Garmin web for compatibility.

I've never seen anyone report that they had problems running CS in a
device where Garmin recommends CN or vice versa.

Why the price difference of Metroguide, CS
and CN is so high? I think that is Garmin's policy.

Much of it presumably comes from Garmin's contractual agreements
with NavTeq, the supplier of the map data. I expect that Garmin
must pay NavTeq considerably per copy sold for the versions with
greater routing capability.

More expensive
equipment requires more expensive software, even if in essence, all are
nearly the same.

Both CS and CN can do autorouting in some GPS. But Metroguide can do
autorouting on the PC, so I think it has all the information needed.

It's like the new policy to not provide regional unlock code. For City
Select Europe (that I am interested on it) I have to buy the entire
Europe unlock code. But I only want one region! My solution? Not to buy
it, too expensive for me, I'm only interested in a 15% of the product or
even less, Spain is one of the regions with less detail.

As Garmin is the only manufacturer that can provide maps for its units,
they can fix any price, there is no competence.

The company seems to be doing quite well - displaying considerable
competence.
Peter
 

Re: Select and navigate

Postby Colin Wilson » Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:49 pm

It's like the new policy to not provide regional unlock code. For City
Select Europe (that I am interested on it) I have to buy the entire
Europe unlock code. But I only want one region! My solution? Not to buy
it, too expensive for me, I'm only interested in a 15% of the product or
even less, Spain is one of the regions with less detail.
As Garmin is the only manufacturer that can provide maps for its units,
they can fix any price, there is no competence.

Drop me an email per my sig, I have something that might interest you -
please remember to include "newsgroup" in the subject as it will bypass
my heavy spam filtering that way :-)

A cheaper possibility rather than the full euro map software might be a
GPS18 bundle with receiver for UKP£135 from aspidshop - you have to
register the receiver, but you get an additional free unlock you can use
on your existing device. You still get the fully unlocked maps though.

Garmin Eurpoe "offered" me City Select Europe alone as a "one-off
special" for £185

Their pricing policy is f*cked.

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Re: Select and navigate

Postby Colin Wilson » Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:50 am

As Garmin is the only manufacturer that can provide maps for its units,
they can fix any price, there is no competence.
The company seems to be doing quite well - displaying considerable
competence.

I believe he meant competition.

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Re: Select and navigate

Postby Peter » Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:59 am

Colin Wilson wrote:

As Garmin is the only manufacturer that can provide maps for its units,
they can fix any price, there is no competence.

The company seems to be doing quite well - displaying considerable
competence.


I believe he meant competition.

That was clear.
Peter
 

Re: Select and navigate

Postby Nacho » Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:22 pm

Colin Wilson wrote:
As Garmin is the only manufacturer that can provide maps for its units,
they can fix any price, there is no competence.

The company seems to be doing quite well - displaying considerable
competence.


I believe he meant competition.


Ups, yes, sorry, I meant competitors. A "false friend" with a Spanish
word ;)

I'm going to send you a message about the other mail you wrote in this
thread.

Thanks and best regards.
Nacho
 

Re: Select and navigate

Postby Nacho » Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:36 pm

Hello Peter.

Peter wrote:
Nacho wrote:

I think that the difference is only the equipment that can use it.
City Select is for some equipments and City Navigator for others.
Check the Garmin web for compatibility.


I've never seen anyone report that they had problems running CS in a
device where Garmin recommends CN or vice versa.

Well, not really. I meant that it is the recommended product for each
device. Metroguide will not provide autorouting in a device that is
capable of it, and City Navigator will provide just the maps (for a very
high proce) in devices without autorouting.

Why the price difference of Metroguide, CS and CN is so high? I think
that is Garmin's policy.


Much of it presumably comes from Garmin's contractual agreements
with NavTeq, the supplier of the map data. I expect that Garmin
must pay NavTeq considerably per copy sold for the versions with
greater routing capability.

Yes, that is a possibility.

Well, I will wait until it is one quarter of the actual price ;)

Best regards.
Nacho
 


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